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BBC - Trayvon Martin death: Zimmerman handgun 'auction reaches $65m'

I don't know who's sleazier, Zimmerman selling the gun he used to deprive Trayvon Martin the rest of his life with, or the human jackal who will buy it.

Maybe someone will buy it and smelt it down into a lump.

If it is really up to $65,000,000, then it is people bidding it up with no intention of buying.

The guy's definitely guilty...



...of being incredibly tacky. But then we already knew that.

One thing that still bothers me about the whole scenario (aside from death, etc.) is the fact this jerk was carrying around a weapon he wasn't qualified to carry in that situation. If he'd had proper training (or an ounce of brains) this likely would never have happened.

The 1st Amendment has been confirmed...he was carrying in a state that allowed this, with proper credentialing...the state of FL did have the "Castle" doctrine in place...etc. But what I don't understand is why there was no,"Special Permit" required. By "Special Permit" I mean that most states differentiate between private citizens carrying for their own protection, and people who wish to carry concealed because of "employment" requirements, such as carrying as a private detective, a paid payroll guard or other protection services.

Now I know Zimmerman was most likely NOT being paid as a "watch" person in his neighborhood, but I doubt the intention of the LAW was only to single out people who were being paid. I think instead the intent of the law was to differentiate between common citizens and those who, through their position, may be exposed to far more violence, than the average person.

Following this reasoning it seems either the watch group, or the state, should have ensured the proper training to avoid possible incidents such as this (neither of which were done). I believe both the state of FL and the watch group's lax policies are culpable.

I don't disagree, but I think Zimmerman is the type that finds a way to get in trouble.

I think that Neighborhood Watch groups generally discourage their members from being armed. The last thing they want the groups to do is to try to enforce the law themselves -- they aren't trained for it.

Zimmerman should never have chased Martin. It ended in a fist fight in which the losing participant used a firearm to kill the winning participant. Most of the time when that happens, the one who killed the other goes to prison.

I know of a similar case in which two people got in a fight at a bar. After it was over, the one on the losing end went home, got a handgun, took it back to the bar, and killed the other guy. He was subsequently convicted of murder. What amazes me is the idiots (I'm related to at least one of them) who are outraged claiming that he was defending himself. That was about the furtherest thing from self defense imaginable.

The ideal solution in the Zimmerman and Martin fist fight would have been if the police arrived before Zimmerman shot Martin and arrested them both for assault and battery on the other and threw them both in jail for the night and took them to a judge the next day. Unfortunately, it didn't happen that way.

Don't forget that Zimmerman had quite a past. He was alleged of molesting his cousin for about ten years beginning when she was six years old. He had been in a fight with a police officer who was lawfully arresting a friend of his for which the charges were dropped in return for taking an anger management class and doing community service. He had worked as security at parties but was let go because of his explosive temper after he picked up one inebriated woman and threw her.

And it has been reported that at the time he killed Martin, he had prescriptions for two medications that are known to have mental effects in some cases. We don't know if he was taking them that night because the police didn't do a blood test on him.

By the way, we had a case in Texas not long ago in which a neighborhood hot head shot a school teacher over a somewhat noisy party. Fortunately, the twerp videotaped the entire event which made it easy for the jury to convict him of murder. In his videotape he was saying things like that he was in fear of his life trying to set up a situation where he would be not guilty.

If interested, do a web search on "Raul Rodriquez".

There was also a case in Arizona in which a mentally handicapped guy was walking his dog and almost got hit by a car pulling out from a fast food restaurant. When he pounded his fist on the hood, the driver shot and killed him and claimed self defense. It took them a while but I think he was found guilty as well.

Don't get me wrong. I'm in favor of self defense, but I think that anyone who kills someone when it wasn't self defense should spend much (or all) of the rest of his life in prison.

Definitely Zimmerman. He plans to use the money to fund anti-BLM activities.

Zimmerman did shoot in self defense, the only real argument is whether the incident was so avoidable that he should be held culpable, and legally speaking, it didn't meet that threshold.

And people wonder why I'm so Americanophobic.

This rates a gold in the Bad Taste Olympics.

"...the only real argument is whether the incident was so avoidable that he should be held culpable,..."

I wonder if you sued the Federal Government for all of the deaths in the Vietnam War, and other wars, if you might find they can not be sued using those charges? (popped into my head?)

But who/what should be held culpable? Not Z, because he was following a deficient set of laws (even if he WAS f'd-up inside).

The Home Watch group? I'm not aware of any information about their operations, including the activities of Z, having broken any laws.

That leaves The State of Florida, about which I will withhold my personal feelings and comments. But I will say, had their laws/ordinances been written more strictly (including some mandatory training and testing) this may have been avoided.

He periodically does something in order to gain attention and the media gives him all of this publicity. This is simply his latest stunt.

Sad that you hear nary a peep out of the media when the black community are out there slaughtering each other day after day in their own neighborhoods.

That is deplorable.