Chuck Schumer neuters bill allowing 9/11 families to sue

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25 May 2016, 2:28 pm

Schumer upends 9/11 suit bill at 11th hours

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Last week’s unanimous passage of a Senate bill making it easier for 9/11 families to sue Saudi Arabia and other foreign terror sponsors was widely heralded as a major victory.

It’s more of a cruel hoax.

It turns out that just before the vote, Sen. Charles Schumer and other proponents of the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act stuffed an amendment into the final draft allowing the attorney general and secretary of state to stop any litigation against the Saudis in its tracks.


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25 May 2016, 2:39 pm

It will be an international nightmare if U.S. Citizens are allowed to sue foreign countries, to the point of sanction on the U.S.

This is only deflecting them from suing the U.S. Government for intelligence and security failures that allowed 9/11 to happen.


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25 May 2016, 5:01 pm

When an American sues another they use an american court and the police enforce it, but who enforces the suing of another country?

There are a lot of stories and rumours of Saudi money paying off politicians.....



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26 May 2016, 12:22 am

Regardless if it's a bad idea or not, the Saudis are certainly scared sh*tless about what might come out in court about their possible involvement. Where there's smoke, there's fire.


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26 May 2016, 1:07 am

xenocity wrote:

This is only deflecting them from suing the U.S. Government for intelligence and security failures that allowed 9/11 to happen.


More like willful ignorence and deliberate cover up. When your ultimate boss and his family have a thirty year business relationship with the Bin Ladin family and Bush's cousin and brother were board members of company up to a year prior to 9/11 did security for the World Trade Center and an airline that crashed into you do not seriously investigate these relationships if you like your career.

What I have never understood about left of center Bush haters is the that they screamed and screamed "Bush Lied and People died". What they are saying is Bush or the neocons are smart enough to fool a country into war but when any type of theory about Alternate thoery to Al Queda only one is mentioned the near universally reaction is that they are morons no way close to competent to pull it off.


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27 May 2016, 5:22 pm

A few weeks ago I watched a long documentary on US experimentation on humans since ww2 and they kept mentioning how ridiculously long some of these court battles go on with the families trying to get some compensation and answers, ''national security'' is a useful shield to deflect pesky civilians with.



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27 May 2016, 8:43 pm

Saudi Arabia is the true enemy of the United States, they were far more responsible for 9/11 than Afghanistan. It is a wicked country, one of the worst dictatorships in the worst, they are the original Islamic State.



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28 May 2016, 4:12 am

Jacoby wrote:
Saudi Arabia is the true enemy of the United States, they were far more responsible for 9/11 than Afghanistan. It is a wicked country, one of the worst dictatorships in the worst, they are the original Islamic State.


As hard as you might believe this, you and I are pretty much in agreement!


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28 May 2016, 9:19 am

slenkar wrote:
When an American sues another they use an american court and the police enforce it, but who enforces the suing of another country?

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There is that too.

But the main issue is the precedent it would set: if American citizens can sue a foreign govt. then that would mean that foreigners could sue the USA. Think about what a disaster that would be.

Much as I would love to see them get to the bottom of 9-11 by investigating the Saudies I dont see how this would be either doable nor even (on balance) desireable.



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28 May 2016, 9:28 am

naturalplastic wrote:
slenkar wrote:
When an American sues another they use an american court and the police enforce it, but who enforces the suing of another country?

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There is that too.

But the main issue is the precedent it would set: if American citizens can sue a foreign govt. then that would mean that foreigners could sue the USA. Think about what a disaster that would be.

Much as I would love to see them get to the bottom of 9-11 by investigating the Saudies I dont see how this would be either doable nor even (on balance) desireable.


Why would it mean that? We don't have to reciprocate anything.



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28 May 2016, 4:07 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
slenkar wrote:
When an American sues another they use an american court and the police enforce it, but who enforces the suing of another country?

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There is that too.

But the main issue is the precedent it would set: if American citizens can sue a foreign govt. then that would mean that foreigners could sue the USA. Think about what a disaster that would be.

Much as I would love to see them get to the bottom of 9-11 by investigating the Saudies I dont see how this would be either doable nor even (on balance) desireable.


Well, if you're talking about those GITMO prisoners who have been found to be innocent of any wrongdoing save for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, then I think suing the US government is quite justifiable.


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