June 7th Results: The Required Formality Lap aka NJ Blowout

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07 Jun 2016, 7:59 pm

Tonight Montana, South Dakota, North Dakota, New Jersey, New Mexico and California are voting...
For some reason they choose to go last and refuse to move up their primary dates inline with the rest of the country.


For results, California is Pacific Time with polls closing at 11PM ET/8PM PT
Though there are worrying signs of quick moving lines and low voter wait time instead of last time's long slow moving lines and huge wait times.

Montana, the Dakotas are mostly in Mountain Time with some parts of each state in Pacific time. Polls close at 10PM ET/8PM MT.

New Mexico is completely in Mountain Time and polls close at 10PM ET/8PM MT

New Jersey the polls have closed with Trump winning 80%+ of the vote and Clinton expected to blowout the state with 60%+ of the vote (she is currently at 59%).

New Mexico's results show Clinton doing a New Jersey style Blow out with over 60%+ of the vote and Trump has 70%+ of the vote.

South Dakota Results show Clinton taking over 50%+ of the vote and counting with Trump getting 60%+ of the vote.


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07 Jun 2016, 8:27 pm

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/donald-tru ... 8839747518

Trump just have his Victory Speech.

He's talking about policies, jobs and attacking the GOP members who are "attacking him today".
He also talked about how he and Sanders share the "Same issues" and that the majority of Sanders supporters "support him" and voted for him tonight.
He also said "We are going to take care of our african american people who have been mistreated for so long!"

Trump has officially given his most boring speech to date!


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07 Jun 2016, 8:52 pm

Sanders blows out ND, splits the 23 delegates with Clinton.


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07 Jun 2016, 9:47 pm

Clinton just finished her victory speech and it was "too nice" unlike Trump's speech.

Though people are responding negatively to her using the national anthem before giving her speech.

Though is she guilty of familandering (pandering to families) by having her family on stage at the end?


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07 Jun 2016, 10:38 pm

With just the first 5% in, Clinton looks ahead in California 65/35.

Montana and South Dakota still quite close.


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07 Jun 2016, 10:45 pm

Darmok wrote:
With just the first 5% in, Clinton looks ahead in California 65/35.

Montana and South Dakota still quite close.

I wouldn't be surprised if she blew out CA by a wider margin than that...

Sanders event is at 1am...

NY Times has received information from leakers in his campaign staff that he is laying off most of his campaign staff tomorrow.
A few will be given jobs in his Senate Office.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/08/us/po ... -cuts.html


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07 Jun 2016, 11:10 pm

Clinton wins SD.


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08 Jun 2016, 12:23 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R004geOm0L8

Live Stream of Sander's event/rally.

Strangely Sanders is 25 minutes late to his own event, as he was supposed to speak at 10AM PT/1AM ET


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08 Jun 2016, 12:50 am

http://www.sfgate.com/elections/

Nice map for tracking the results of California, especially since it shows not only percents but the actual counts as they are reported. Interestingly, as the evening rolled on and the % precincts reporting in each county rose to 40% or higher, Sanders kept gaining north state & Sierra (along the Western border) counties one by one that had been marked for Clinton earlier.


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08 Jun 2016, 12:59 am

GO TRUMP!! WOO HOO!! :mrgreen:

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08 Jun 2016, 1:15 am

Sanders just finished his speech.

He thanked all the voters in all the states he won... no mention of the states he lost.

He did his stump speech...

He confirmed the phone call with Obama and his meeting with Obama on Thursday... His supporters booed Obama.
He mentioned the phone call with Hillary, who thanked him for running a good campaign... His supporters booed her.
He didn't say anything nice about her.
He attacked Trump for being a bigot and his party for supporting him
He states the majority of voters don't want Trump, not even the GOP primary voters.

He confirmed he knows arithmetic and says he can still win the nomination but it will be hard to do so at the convention.
He states the "Will of the people" is on his side, despite Hillary having over 3M more votes than him.
He states his couldn't run the campaign he wanted due issues within in his campaign staff.
He states he will win DC next week and that will give him the leverage going into the convention to convince delegates to switch to him
He states the party's only hope is to unify behind him for the general election

He ended his speech with the words "The Struggle Continues..."


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08 Jun 2016, 2:41 am

What did they call Hillary voters who held on after she was numerically eliminated in 2008? PUMAs? Party Unity My Ass if I recall.


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08 Jun 2016, 11:32 am

xenocity wrote:
Sanders just finished his speech.

He thanked all the voters in all the states he won... no mention of the states he lost.

He did his stump speech...

He confirmed the phone call with Obama and his meeting with Obama on Thursday... His supporters booed Obama.
He mentioned the phone call with Hillary, who thanked him for running a good campaign... His supporters booed her.
He didn't say anything nice about her.
He attacked Trump for being a bigot and his party for supporting him
He states the majority of voters don't want Trump, not even the GOP primary voters.

He confirmed he knows arithmetic and says he can still win the nomination but it will be hard to do so at the convention.
He states the "Will of the people" is on his side, despite Hillary having over 3M more votes than him.
He states his couldn't run the campaign he wanted due issues within in his campaign staff.
He states he will win DC next week and that will give him the leverage going into the convention to convince delegates to switch to him
He states the party's only hope is to unify behind him for the general election

He ended his speech with the words "The Struggle Continues..."


Uncle Bernie is indulging in some excess (and futile) rhetoric....


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08 Jun 2016, 12:12 pm

Dox47 wrote:
What did they call Hillary voters who held on after she was numerically eliminated in 2008? PUMAs? Party Unity My Ass if I recall.

She wasn't mathematically eliminated until the final Super Tuesday, she ended her campaign after she won CA.

Though going into the final Super Tuesday, she was only losing by 60 delegates (Sanders is down almost 500 pledged delegates).
If she would have had a big blow out that day, she could have tied the Obama.
She then conceded even though she won more votes than Obama (he beat her in delegates), telling her supporters to support the Democratic Party and Obama like she was going to on live TV.

The final vote count for 2008 was:

17,584,692 Obama (47.3%)
17,857,501 Clinton (48.0%)

The final delegate count was:
2,285½ Obama
1,973 Clinton

Obama had been a registered Democrat for over 10 years.

The race between Clinton and Sanders is much wider, with Clinton winning 53% of CA.

Currently the pledged delegate count (Supers not counted in this total).
2187 Clinton
1805 Sanders

The total votes cast are:
15,889,660 Clinton (55.64%)
12,183,133 Sanders (42.66%)

Contest won:
33 Clinton
23 Sanders

Clinton has won a plurality of votes, pledged delegates and contests.

Sanders refused to campaign in the South, except for South Carolina which is a major reason why he lost.
Sanders has only been a Democrat since the end of last year and has registered as independent in Vermont for his 2018 reelection to the U.S. Senate as of late last year.

Or I'll put this way:

Sanders has spent 24 1/2 years in the U.S. Congress (first time seated in Congress on January 3rd, 1991).
Clinton has only held a federal post (if First Lady is included) for 23 1/2 years (She became First Lady on January 20th, 1992).

Sanders has the longer national political career than Hillary!


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08 Jun 2016, 2:26 pm

Am I the only one in this thread who thinks that Bernie is in denial over the possibility he lost the nomination?

If the Democrats want to unify, what they could do is convince Bernie to be Hillary's running mate, whether Bernie likes it or not.


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