IL Target store bathroom bombed... Sign of Protest?

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09 Jun 2016, 8:50 pm

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Police in Evanston, Illinois, are holding a Chicago resident after a small bomb exploded in the bathroom of a Target (TGT) store.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-target-e ... om-policy/


It is believed the bomb was detonated in opposition to Target's progressive stance on letting anyone use the bathroom they see fit.

Are more bathroom bombing to come from those who oppose the bathroom choice policy?


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10 Jun 2016, 12:42 am

I am concerned that all Christians will be lumped with Robert Dear, Eric Rudolph, WBC, and whoever did this--incidentally by the same people who tell people not to lump all Muslims with ISIS.

That said, such cowardly and ghastly attacks are for the most part condemned by both sides of this issue.


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10 Jun 2016, 1:15 am

According to the police they do not think it is related to the bathroom policy for whatever that is worth. Besides terrorism there are always disgruntled employees, customers and people who get off on things going boom.


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10 Jun 2016, 6:22 am

People have been flushing lit "Cherry-Bombs" down commodes for decades, "just for fun". Same for Alka-Selzer in a soda bottle.

Suddenly, every such incident is automatically an attack by homophobic, freedom-hating, terrorist, extremist, jihadists.

Maybe it was just a kid pulling the same prank as her mother and grandmother pulled before her.


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10 Jun 2016, 12:40 pm

When I was in high school back in the 1970's blowing up commodes, setting off smoke bombs, dumping everything from locker rooms into halls was a tradition on the last day of school.


That clip was mild compared to what went on in my school. The halls wrre completly covered with junk up to a foot deep.

Off Topic: The movie "Dazed and Confused" remains the best representation of the 1970's American High School experience in a movie or on TV I have seen. "That 70's Show" was a show set in the '70's for made for mellanial teens. It had the trappings of the '70's but not the feel.


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10 Jun 2016, 1:26 pm

Police have taken a 44-year old woman into custody as a 'person of interest".

I'd like to caution assigning blame without more information. While my gut tells me the incident is connected to the Target policy in some way, as Sagan once said, "I try not to think with my gut". It's also possible it was someone who has been subject to the policy backlash or some other non-obvious connection. Or, yes, it could be completely unconnected although given the age of the person that seems less likely. 44-year old women are not known to be a demographic that goes around dropping fireworks into commodes for fun. Not that that is what happened. It sounds more like a mentos/soda or drain-o/aluminum foil noisemaker "bomb", not that people haven't been arrested for those, too, or that they can't cause harm.


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11 Jun 2016, 1:01 am

Any more word on the motive?


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11 Jun 2016, 1:27 am

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Police have taken a 44-year old woman into custody as a 'person of interest".


Was she wearing a Grumpy Cat t-shirt?

:lol:


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11 Jun 2016, 2:09 am

Dox47 wrote:
Edenthiel wrote:
Police have taken a 44-year old woman into custody as a 'person of interest".


Was she wearing a Grumpy Cat t-shirt?

:lol:


Am I gonna have to kick your ass? :mrgreen:

I was wondering what happens when you put alka seltzer in a pop can. I have a surplus of alka seltzer left over from that head cold I just had and I'm feeling really grumpy.


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11 Jun 2016, 5:00 am

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I was wondering what happens when you put alka seltzer in a pop can. I have a surplus of alka seltzer left over from that head cold I just had and I'm feeling really grumpy.


Use a two liter pop bottle, and be sure to get away quick once you put the cap on, they can throw broken plastic pretty far when they pop. I like to use dry ice myself, gives you a bit more time to get away.


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11 Jun 2016, 6:13 am

xenocity wrote:
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Police in Evanston, Illinois, are holding a Chicago resident after a small bomb exploded in the bathroom of a Target (TGT) store.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-target-e ... om-policy/


It is believed the bomb was detonated in opposition to Target's progressive stance on letting anyone use the bathroom they see fit.

Are more bathroom bombing to come from those who oppose the bathroom choice policy?


What it was, was vandalism. Someone has no respect for the property of others.

When you get right down to it, segregating bathrooms by gender is illogical. All humans have to piddle and dump. The logical thing is to provide them with a place for doing so and a sink to wash up afterwards. However one may feel about the "bathroom issue", blowing up a crapper that does not belong to one is just plain wrong...


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11 Jun 2016, 6:27 am

At this moment, it seems like just another act of vandalism by a random nutter. Not even the police are convinced that this is a "bathroom gender" issue.

It's the media that's making more of it than is actually warranted. They gotta sell that ad space!

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11 Jun 2016, 6:36 am

During training while bored we'd make "mortars" from gatorade bottles (thick so get velocity when cap pops) and dry ice. >+<
(This is a group of soldiers so bored that ages 18-50 were doing "don't try this at home kids/hold my beer" moments.)

For what it is worth, 44 year olds, especially women do not usually do singleton vandal acts or "terror" unless you count keying their ex's car >_<.
And women of any age are not usually reading the Popular mechanics "bomb:how-to" issue

When have you ever seen a SINGLE/Lone 44 yr old nut for left or right do something newsworthy for a cause (exl murder/serial killers). 1 person chained to a tree or many? 1 person throwing pain on fur or in a group? one person harassing abortion clinic or many?

A bomb made of plastic bottle and minor damage? cracked the toilet? In empty bathroom. Seem like waste of time and plastic.

Notice they haven't leaked anything about their person of interest. Normally that is status quo. Wanna bet she doesn't fit the mold of bomber or activist and the only evidence they have is store footage catching her as person last leaving. Surely her prints are on some of the fragments if she was perp.


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11 Jun 2016, 6:43 am

My money is on the perp being a disgruntled ex-employee, a shoplifter who got caught, a customer who felt she was treated badly at the store, or just some random nutter off the street.

Low-tech devices made of common materials don't require any special knowledge or training, and instructions to build them are practically everywhere on the Internet.

Why, I just read a few posts on a popular website describing how to build a soda-bottle bomb. If only I could remember which website that was ... :wink:


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11 Jun 2016, 3:59 pm

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My money is on the perp being a disgruntled ex-employee, a shoplifter who got caught, a customer who felt she was treated badly at the store, or just some random nutter off the street.

Low-tech devices made of common materials don't require any special knowledge or training, and instructions to build them are practically everywhere on the Internet.

Why, I just read a few posts on a popular website describing how to build a soda-bottle bomb. If only I could remember which website that was ... :wink:


Oh, heck. It's still possible to find instructions for creating a 'dirty bomb' the same way the Radioactive Boy Scout did some years back. Although technically he was just tying to make a breeder reactor, not a bomb. 8O

So, yeah. There are videos on building everything from lye-aluminum bombs to railguns. Lotta careless nuts out there. One set that is fascinating is a guy who keeps building amateur explosive devices despite losing his hand to them. It's like he just can't learn. He'll be putting one together and you as the viewer can't help but think, "um, if you don't have that sodium sealed absolutely perfectly, you'll lose your other hand long before you try to detonate it remotely with that there sniper rifle".


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11 Jun 2016, 4:21 pm

Evanston Now reported today:

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Police Cmdr. Joseph Dugan says evidence recovered from the scene indicates Heidi E. Schmidt of 4049 W. Crystal was in a bathroom stall mixing items commonly used to producd a chemical high when the unstable mixture exploded.

Schmidt wasn’t injured in the incident, Dugan says, and left the scene before police and firefighters arrived.

Schmidt was arrested based on witness accounts and video footage, Dugan says, and members of the Cook County Bomb Squad were able to recover evidence confirming the cause of the explosion.

Dugan says there’ve been no threats or other suspicious activity at the Evanston Target store before or after the explosion and that the investigation did not uncover any evidence that would suggest the incident was related “to any policies of the Target store or a hate crime.”

Schmidt now faces felony charges of aggravated arson and illegal possession of an explosive or incendiary device.


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