Ku Klux Klan dreams of rising again 150 years after founding

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Chants of "White power! Death to the ungodly! Death to our enemies!"
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Last edited by alex on 30 Jun 2016, 11:29 am, edited 1 time in total.: racist imagery is not permitted

With Trump making blatant, unadulterated racism popular again, I'd say the KKK has a good chance of fulfilling their dream.

wholly ridiculous scaremongering

you should be ashamed

Hey Trump cannot help it if he attracts racists anymore than a dog turd can help it if they attract flies.

stopping illegal immigration is apparently racist

you keep screaming racist so much it is going to lose all its meaning when something actually racist does happen

During the 1990s, a Utahn who was a cousin to the then-governor of the state led a rag-tag crew of neo-Nazis throughout the American southwest, particularly the Las Vegas-Four Corners corridor. I learned firsthand who he was when he, his then-small family and a couple friends "crashed" an LGBT town discussion at a southern Utah city hall where I was speaking and did nothing more than shout empty demands and a couple slogans before being told by state police to leave.

Some years later, this man had spent some time in jail (or prison) and had learned through a Salt Lake City lawyer who was investigating the jail-house murder of the lawyer's brother during the same weekend as the Oklahoma City Bombing that some court records showed that the federal government had tapped the neo-Nazi's telephone calls for years and, in more than a few cases, appeared to have created evidence to suggest that the neo-Nazi had been involved with the bombing. By this point in his life, the neo-Nazi had stopped and renounced his former political activities. He was convinced that he had narrowly escaped entrapment by the federal government.

Some years ago, a mutual friend told me that he had met this former neo-Nazi. The neo-Nazi was now the father and grandfather of a racially mixed family who joined his son (who I remember had attended crashing our LGBT discussion) in marching every year in the Las Vegas LGBT Pride Parade. The former neo-Nazi was also a part-time stand-up comic and dance DJ.

Shortly after my first run-in with the neo-Nazi, I was appointed to serve as a hate-crime adviser to the U.S. Office of the Attorney for the District of Utah where I had the opportunity at a hate-crime conference to speak with a very famous former neo-Nazi who, at the time, was going through the process of removing his tattoos. He admitted to me that he believed that he was set up by the federal government, but blamed himself for falling for it.

Both these stories support the idea that certain people can be recruited and used unwittingly by others who want to create or pretend that there are legions of racists lurking in every dark alley. My personal experience has showed me that, more often, our government is amplifying the threat to cause fear (and justify its authority) among citizens.

In other words, "trust no one," especially if the government and news media are hyping the story.

You aren't even somewhat alarmed at the resurgence of the preeminent homicidal racist terrorist group in America?

I might be if I knew who was instigating it. World politics since the 1950s has become theatre. Name the director and his producers, and we can talk, until then, I believe that nothing political simply "happens."

The trouble with orchestrating something political by some shadowy, sinister forces is, it rarely works out the way the instigator wants. Look at all the CIA's hairbrained schemes that turned into disasters.
The thing is, plenty of things just happen, due to conditions in politics, or the economy, or due to societal forces, with unforeseen consequences. History is a spinning game show wheel: where it stops, nobody knows.

Indeed, but, not every instigator has the wherewithal to succeed equally. Politicians know that anger is the only emotion that is difficult to sustain beyond a few days. So, by definition, the average hate group of any stripes end up making a huge splash and, then, ...nothing. When I see an anger movement lasting more than a few days, I see a big red flag signifying corporate and/or government involvement pulling the puppets' strings.

While it's absolutely true that certain politicians had courted and made use of the Klan back in days of old, when that group was much larger and powerful than it is today, the racial hatred, and the fear felt by poor of white racists that blacks would rise up the social ladder, and leave said poor whites at the bottom rung, was more than enough to keep their hate and fear sustained.

The Klan was the paramilitary of the Democratic Party, the Republicans being called the Party of Lincoln.

Whether I believe the KKK is making a comeback or not, it is evident to me that society is becoming increasingly polarized. More black-and-white than my autistic brain.

Who is driving this polarization?? To what ends??

Well, clearly, those who report about such perceived polarization (the media), those who comment about it (elected officials and other politicians) and those who repeat what others say about it (trolls and tools). They all do this (whether they know it or not) to foster further social problems about which they can present themselves as knowledgeable and/or able to combat said problems. This behavior even has a snazzy name: the Hegelian Dialectic. In other words, it means those who:1) cause the problem, 2) wait for the inevitable public reaction to "do something" about the problem, and 3) offer the solution that they intended to make before the problem even happened. It is also called "false flag" events. Throughout recorded human history, most leaders and their nations do this frequently. When former U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara admitted in the 1990s that the Gulf of Tonkin incident "didn't happen," he essentially admitted that the event that triggered the Viet Nam war was a Hegelian "false flag."

So, the "ends" that results from this strategy include: more power and money for the few, less rights and money for the many.

Rather than looking at it from the perspective of Democrat and Republican, the situation of supporting the KKK and segregation should be looked at as a matter of conservatives vs. liberals: and definitely, back during the Civil War and Reconstruction, the southern Democrats were the conservative party, while the Republicans were the liberals. Just look how southern Democrats flooded to the GOP during the Nixon and Reagan years, and how those southerners had influenced Republican party politics.

Both sides were crass, social utilitarians, who used concepts of race, to inflame the passions of the people.

Lincoln said they would be comfortable, in the jungles, were selfish to expect integration, and had "company store" careers, arranged further south, in the Golden Circle. After his assassination, his associates would use Reconstruction as a means of punishing the bourgeois, middle class.

I don't believe it is possible to say that blacks are respected, then to use them as bait to enrage people.