Remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki

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Japan observes anniversary of Hiroshima bombing

Hirohito, Tojo and their buddies should have thought more carefully about bombing Pearl Harbor.

Those who sow the wind, shall in due course reap the whirlwind.

Those two nukes saved millions of Japanese lives. If the U.S. had invaded over ten million Japanese would have been killed.

On 71st Anniversary of Hiroshima, the Fear of a Nuclear Trump

god have mercy.

By "those" who are you talking about? It wasn't just Hirohito, Tojo, and their "buddies" who were hurt by the attack--in fact, Tojo wasn't even Prime Minister anymore when the bombings occurred. Many women and children were killed in the bombing.

"Many women and children were killed in the bombing.

And the Japanese knew a lot about killing "women and children" as they were very proficient at it....an example from Wikipedia:

"Nanking Massacre
Building on the hard-won victory in Shanghai, the IJA captured the KMT capital city of Nanjing (Nanking) (December 1937) and Northern Shanxi (September–November 1937). These campaigns involved approximately 350,000 Japanese soldiers, and considerably more Chinese. Historians estimate that between December 13, 1937 and late January 1938 Japanese forces tortured and murdered up to 300,000 Chinese (mostly civilians and surrendered soldiers) and raped tens of thousands of women during the Nanking Massacre (also known as the "Rape of Nanking"), after the fall of Nanking. As of 2015, some right-wing Japanese negationists deny that the massacre occurred."

But when the Japanese come out to mourn on the anniversaries of the bombings, I've NEVER heard them mention this or any of the other brutal, savage, actions of THEIR troops.

Within 2 to 4 months of the bombings 146,000 people died in Hiroshima and 80,000 in Nagasaki; that's 226,000 total. VS.
300,000 in Nanking alone, caused by Japanese troops.

With this kind of treatment toward others I believe many of our own acts were inspired by these Japanese acts of violence against both civilians and our captured troops.

It's a sad reminder of what is necessary in war, there was no acceptable alternative and the decision ultimately saved many more American and Japanese lives. We should not fight war we have no intention of winning, there is no such thing as a humanitarian or clean war and to fight a war with one hand tied behind your back is treacherous on the part of our political leadership.

>And the Japanese knew a lot about killing "women and children" as they were very proficient at it

By "the Japanese" do you mean to include the women and the children who were killed when the atomic bombs were dropped and by the radiation thereafter?

The Japanese imperial forces had no scruples about bombing Chinese cities and killing civilians. What is sauce for the goose-san is sauce for the gander-san.

None of the dreadful bombings of Japan would have happened if the Japanese had not attacked the United States.

Those who sow the wind, shall in due course reap the whirlwind.

Iwo Jima and Okinawa yielded horrendous casualties on both sides, imagine an assault on the homeland and what that would cost, if you can prevent that kind of slaughter and prolonged misery, especially if your side comes out with all the cards, you choose that option. The russians were also heading toward the north of Japan, they were going to be approached from both ends either way and the last thing we'd want is to share the island with Stalin, we know how that ended up in Germany. The firebombing campaign was absolutely abysmal, people tend to forget just how much devastation they absorbed before those two vile things were slammed on top of them.

You didn't answer my question. Here it is again:

By "the Japanese" do you mean to include the women and the children who were killed when the atomic bombs were dropped and by the radiation thereafter?

Was it necessary? Eisenhower, Admiral Leahy, and Douglas MacArthur didn't think it was:

http://www.doug-long.com/quotes.htm

What motivated the surrender was the Soviets entering the war in the Pacific, causing Japan to be completely outflanked. Prior to that, Japan had hoped to negotiate terms for surrender with the Soviets mediating.

I am always torn as to whether dropping the bombs was a necessary evil we had to commit, I think they intended to drop them for more reasons than destroying Japan's will to fight, the impact lingered far, certainly avoiding an unimaginably bloody and complicated assault from the seas factored in, they explored the possibility to the ends of the earth, planning for Normandy was one thing, getting onto Japan from the sea would have been hideous to decipher as we saw with the island assaults, can you imagine the reaction if the public had known the atomic bomb was an alternative option for the allies. and for the Japanese casualties? The effects of the bombs are unthinkable (and now they're fathoms more potent and disgusting) and that's probably what has prevented anyone from launching them since.

I refer to the leadership. The Japanese women and children killed as a result of their leader's decision to make war are just as much victims as any other "collateral" damage. The blame must always be on the leaders.

As time goes on, one thing is certain: Humans will always develop a more effective way to kill each other.