The hounding of Gabby Douglas at the Olympics
Gabby Douglas was representing the United States, but people started hounding her for not putting her hand on her heart while the national anthem was playing, something lots of athletes don't do anyway. She nevertheless was standing respectfully at attention, but apparently that wasn't good enough. Then people started piling on, saying her hair isn't straight enough, etc.
This is pretty horrible:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/ ... n-olympics
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I find that her teammates failing to publicly defend her at this time worse then whatever she did not do.
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I think her not giving the flag / anthem the "civilian salute", is DISGRACEFUL----I always wanna SMACK the athlete that doesn't put their hand over their heart!!
She also sat stone-faced and didn't applaud in support of Simone Biles, when Simone had completed her routine. I think she became a BRAT after her being "the Golden Child" at last year's Olympics, and this year she's been replaced by Simone Biles (who is WAAAAAY better), and is acting like a sore-loser.
Maybe her teammates aren't supporting her, because they know what kind of person she REALLY is.
The Olympics have a national character. You are representing your country. When you are on the podium you are in the spotlight and your actions take on a public aspect. Failing to pay respect to your country is going to be interpreted as a statement (and probably is). I don't know why she did not render the sign of attachment to her country. That is her right, though it does mean people are going to respond to her statement with their own, which is their right. I figure you should only do something like that if you have a very good reason. Maybe she does. It will in the first instance appear disrespectful and unappreciative of the many people who donate and support the Olympic program. They likely are supporting it in the sense of representing us as a whole. Maybe she has stated her reasons or will.
She also sat stone-faced and didn't applaud in support of Simone Biles, when Simone had completed her routine. I think she became a BRAT after her being "the Golden Child" at last year's Olympics, and this year she's been replaced by Simone Biles (who is WAAAAAY better), and is acting like a sore-loser.
Maybe her teammates aren't supporting her, because they know what kind of person she REALLY is.
..wow.
She doesn't seem like a brat just for a few minor things. People are overreacting (like they always do) when tiny things happen.
Plus the media loves to make issues about tiny things, then people suddenly people think that person is evil over those things without knowing more about the matter!
It's not fair to judge a person based on a small amount of minor things. I find it very disrespectful. Do you want to be judged that harshly based on minor mistakes you did? I somehow doubt you do.
The world would be a better place if people didn't nitpick every little thing, especially when you don't even know the person well! There is zero way to honestly judge a person just on a few things they do, period.
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She doesn't seem like a brat just for a few minor things. People are overreacting (like they always do) when tiny things happen.
Plus the media loves to make issues about tiny things, then people suddenly people think that person is evil over those things without knowing more about the matter!
It's not fair to judge a person based on a small amount of minor things. I find it very disrespectful. Do you want to be judged that harshly based on minor mistakes you did? I somehow doubt you do.
The world would be a better place if people didn't nitpick every little thing, especially when you don't even know the person well! There is zero way to honestly judge a person just on a few things they do, period.
I don't consider it "a few minor things". I am an avid watcher / follower of the Olympics (and feel I DO know more about the matter), and I sensed she was putting-on a MAJOR act of "sweet, lovely, wonderful", during the last Summer Olympics (I said, in my last post "last year"; I meant last Olympics), and her actions, NOW, seem to validate what I was thinking, during the prior Olympics.
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"...especially when you don't even know the person well! There is zero way to honestly judge a person just on a few things they do, period."
Oh----so, by THAT, I'm guessing you KNOW the people in the Milwaukee riots, cuz you called them thugs and idiots:
http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=327253&p=7258073&sid=da7aaa3f2904238564e530b913101d5a&sid=8014a5a2f8ba33aec5e841a35c4045fb#p7258073
We're all just expressing our opinion(s), here.....
People that riot and destroy stuff are thugs for sure. There is no justifying their actions.
Being an avid Olympics watcher doesn't mean you know her at all besides what you've seen and/or read.
It's easy to judge athletes because they are in the public eye. Unfortunately it means people are extra rude to them for any minor mistakes they do. It's a bit sickening.
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I don't think it's necessary to put your hand over your heart though. That's just outward symbolism / tradition, which means nothing. It's like a man removing his hat to eat or pray: a man made tradition but it doesn't mean you're disrespectful if you don't follow like sheep in this...
Overt disrespect, on the other hand, is quite obvious.
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Is it? From the OP article you probably didn't bother to read:
Douglas was standing to attention. But apparently that wasn’t good enough for the experts back home, who piled their hatred upon her. If only they could have seen what they had done, reducing a 20-year old woman to tears for something that many athletes – from the US and around the world – don’t do anyway. The more Douglas talked the more bewildered she looked, as if all the magic from London in 2012 could disappear so fast in four years.
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Is it? From the OP article you probably didn't bother to read:
Douglas was standing to attention. But apparently that wasn’t good enough for the experts back home, who piled their hatred upon her. If only they could have seen what they had done, reducing a 20-year old woman to tears for something that many athletes – from the US and around the world – don’t do anyway. The more Douglas talked the more bewildered she looked, as if all the magic from London in 2012 could disappear so fast in four years.
No, I didn't read your article, because I have limited bandwidth, and too many times I open a page, and a video begins instantly playing somewhere on the page, and I may not see it 'til I scroll-down, and I don't wanna risk the loss. You copied and pasted from the article, in your OP, and since I have seen a few times on TV what she did, I felt I could speak to it.
From what you copied and pasted in this quote, I don't agree with what the author is saying. I don't feel that it is murky what athletes should do. I don't agree that she was standing at attention (I'm a U.S. military veteran, so my idea of "at attention" differs). I don't agree that most U.S. athletes don't do it, anyway----I always keep a close watch on that, and I don't recall not even ONE person not doing it, this year (of the Award Ceremonies, that I've seen; I haven't seen ALL of them). As for other countries not doing it, maybe it's not their custom----and, quite frankly, I don't care what other countries do, in this regard; I only care what Americans do, because I want Americans to be better than that; I realize "better than that" is subjective, but.....
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If someone doesn't put their hand over their heart during the American anthem it is disrespectful? I don't understand that. If she had not stood to attention that would have been disrespectful, but hand over heart, that's almost totalitarian. As for her perceived lack of support due to her demeanor, one should never try to figure out what is in someone else's head; there is no way to know.
Campin_Cat, we've all been watching the Olympics, otherwise we wouldn't give a toss about this thread. Maybe she is jealous of Biles, maybe she is upset about her media coverage, maybe she just got her period. Who knows? But I find it frightening when people are so quick to turn on someone for no good reason.
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So, your saying that Trump "is setting up for a coup" is not you trying to figure-out what's in someone else's head?
http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=327005&p=7254749&sid=ca92f1d6aff8aebd1820077218c3332f#p7254749
The point that I'm trying to make to you and Earthbound, IS that whatever either of you (or, anyone else) has to say about me expressing my OPINION, one could make the same arguments about some of you all's comments.
Campin_Cat, we've all been watching the Olympics, otherwise we wouldn't give a toss about this thread. Maybe she is jealous of Biles, maybe she is upset about her media coverage, maybe she just got her period. Who knows? But I find it frightening when people are so quick to turn on someone for no good reason.
Oh, I AGREE that it could be any ONE, or ALL, or NONE of those reasons----the POINT is that she showed bad sportsmanship, IMO.
As I said before, I haven't "just" turned on her----and besides, I'm not one to throw-out the baby with the bath-water; I GREATLY admire her athletic ability; God knows *I* couldn't do what she does!!
This will be the last time I post in this discussion.
I honestly feel like you are just trying to attack me and others by bringing up other subjects. That's not only rude but its derailing this topic! Sorry if I offended with previous comments but honestly.. people just need to leave Gabby alone.
Athletes and celebrities get abused (online in comments, by the media in real life, etc) way too often. Almost always that type of abuse is not justified. Plus way too many people overreact to every little thing. She has her right to do what she wants and it was NOT a huge deal, but the media will turn it into a huge issue.. for the ratings, the website views and so on. Then people that don't read everything about it- will assume the media is right and there isn't anything else to it. That's ignorant and shouldn't be happening to anyone.