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13 Sep 2016, 8:23 am
maybe the prequels 
13 Sep 2016, 9:37 am
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14 Sep 2016, 3:26 am
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14 Sep 2016, 12:17 pm
While I can relate to scientific argument in favor of Star Trek over Star Wars...
... if it came down to a battle...
... the Trekkies would regret bringing a gun to a knife fight...
14 Sep 2016, 1:41 pm
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14 Sep 2016, 5:42 pm
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14 Sep 2016, 7:59 pm
friedmacguffins wrote:
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I thought of both brands as propaganda, from a very young age.
Dillogic wrote:
You're not.
Most works of fiction have a narrative that the author is pushing for. Some are better at hiding it than others.
Most works of fiction have a narrative that the author is pushing for. Some are better at hiding it than others.
One way to think of sci-fi, is a sort of caricature. The author is viewing presentday people and social situations, in terms of logical extremes. So, in the ordinary sense, you have republics, rebels, representation via delegates, warlike, logical, acquisitive, and intuitive people.
But, in the extraordinary sense, yes, I am discussing a conspiracy theory.
In the words of cosmic, secular humanists, all the spiritual matters of the cosmos have a materialistic explanation.
As such, the creators are said to be involved in exopolitics, in a literal and not speculative way.
In that line of discussion, both series might be considered scientific -- a psa for disclosure, which some call the Externalization of the Hierarchy.
I respect that the claim is considered paranormal, so am treating it as fringe.
14 Sep 2016, 9:40 pm
Campin_Cat wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
While I can relate to scientific argument in favor of Star Trek over Star Wars...
... if it came down to a battle...
... the Trekkies would regret bringing a gun to a knife fight...
... if it came down to a battle...
... the Trekkies would regret bringing a gun to a knife fight...
Why would anyone regret bringing a gun, to a knife fight? Just curious.....
I can certainly see why someone would regret bringing a KNIFE to a GUN fight, but.....
He must have had a dyslexic moment and meant "knife to a gun fight".
But he also forgot that the whole point of phasers is that they are adjustable. Dial up from "stun" to "kill" and they will kill at a much greater range (like a hand gun) than can a light saber...so THERE!
Indeed turned to kill a phaser would become "the gun" brought to the sword fight if the user was pitted against an opponet with a light saber.
BTW: a phaser can be dialed to a whole range of settings. Apparently including to levels lower than "stun".
In one episode Spock and Kirk and the crew beam down to the mystery planet phasers drawn. Spock announces "reports are in that this planet is inhabited sole by attractive young women". Kirk sternly orders "then turn your phasers to 'caress'".
Okay that was not in the TV show, but in the MAD magazine spoof of Star Trek I read when I was a kid. But it mades sense to me.
15 Sep 2016, 1:02 am
15 Sep 2016, 1:19 am
15 Sep 2016, 8:58 am
GGPViper wrote:
While I can relate to scientific argument in favor of Star Trek over Star Wars...
... if it came down to a battle...
... the Trekkies would regret bringing a gun to a knife fight...
... if it came down to a battle...
... the Trekkies would regret bringing a gun to a knife fight...
Not at all.
As anyone who watched the original series knows, Kirk dealt with that situation in the person of Gary Mitchell in "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and when confronted by the powers of the Platonians in "Plato's stepchildren."
Faced with Sith and Jedi, Kirk would just get McCoy to cook up a hypospray loaded with midichlorians or kironide and then deliver a beatdown to the sith or other smug "I brought magic to a knife and gun fight" type.
