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18 Sep 2016, 1:10 pm

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A report by a news agency linked to the Islamic State claimed on Sunday that a “soldier of the Islamic State” was behind a stabbing attack Saturday night at a Minnesota shopping mall. Eight people were injured in the attack before the knife-wielding man was fatally shot by an off-duty police officer, the authorities in St. Cloud said.

The police said that the attacker had mentioned Allah and asked at least one victim if he was Muslim. All eight victims were expected to survive.


The New York Times: ISIS Claims Responsibility for Stabbing Attack at Minnesota Mall



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18 Sep 2016, 2:19 pm

I guess when people praise the god of Islam, and commit jihad, it really is a terrorist attack, afterall. :ninja:



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18 Sep 2016, 2:37 pm

CNN reported that "off-duty Avon police officer Jason Falconer" killed the suspect as the assailant threatened other people in the mall attack ( http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/18/us/minnes ... l-stabbing ). Despite Falconer's act, the Crossroads Center mall in St. Cloud, Minn., enjoys a "[n]o firearms or illegal weapons" policy ( https://www.crossroadscenter.com/en/cod ... nduct.html ) ... hmm. No wonder these "terrorists" and other whack-a-doodles commit their crimes in gun-free zones.

I am so glad to live in a state where 45.3 percent of households own at least one firearm making it the 16th most armed state in the United States. We don't have many whack-a-doodles goofing off here.


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18 Sep 2016, 2:41 pm

aka victim disarmament zones.

While there is a melee, you shelter in place. Wouldn't want anyone to get hurt.



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18 Sep 2016, 3:44 pm

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CNN reported that "off-duty Avon police officer Jason Falconer" killed the suspect as the assailant threatened other people in the mall attack ( http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/18/us/minnes ... l-stabbing ). Despite Falconer's act, the Crossroads Center mall in St. Cloud, Minn., enjoys a "[n]o firearms or illegal weapons" policy ( https://www.crossroadscenter.com/en/cod ... nduct.html ) ... hmm. No wonder these "terrorists" and other whack-a-doodles commit their crimes in gun-free zones.

I am so glad to live in a state where 45.3 percent of households own at least one firearm making it the 16th most armed state in the United States. We don't have many whack-a-doodles goofing off here.


So am I. I have already set myself up to where I am able to stay in my condo for weeks or months. At this point, I'll probably never be going to a mall again.....or a Walmart. I'm surprised they haven't started attacks in the churches yet that would be the supreme setup - they wouldn't even have to ask if anyone was Muslim.


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18 Sep 2016, 3:47 pm

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So am I. I have already set myself up to where I am able to stay in my condo for weeks or months. At this point, I'll probably never be going to a mall again.....or a Walmart. I'm surprised they haven't started attacks in the churches yet that would be the supreme setup - they wouldn't even have to ask if anyone was Muslim.

It sounds to me that you are a prepper of sorts. If so ... :salut:


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18 Sep 2016, 3:53 pm

I was at one point, then I stopped because it was getting expensive and things were not looking too bad. With everything that is happening now (my Ma just informed me of the bombings in New Jersey and New York), I'm expecting martial law to be in effect at some point which is what I'm planning for. Maybe I should restart my stocking up. Water is what's going to be the problem. I'd like to get a shotgun too, but I'm too darn busy paying for this schooling that I may not even be around to get any use out of. :mrgreen:


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18 Sep 2016, 4:58 pm

When terrorist attacks instill the kind of fear that you exhibit, nurseangela, the terrorists have truly accomplished one of their primary goals. Get out and live life! You stand a much higher probability of dying in a fatal car accident -- or slipping in the shower and busting your head open -- than you do at the hands of a terrorist.


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18 Sep 2016, 5:01 pm

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When terrorist attacks instill the kind of fear that you exhibit, nurseangela, the terrorists have truly accomplished one of their primary goals. Get out and live life! You stand a much higher probability of dying in a fatal car accident -- or slipping in the shower and busting your head open -- than you do at the hands of a terrorist.

Preparing for the future isn't based in fear. It is based in planning for the worst, but hoping for the best.


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18 Sep 2016, 5:05 pm

^I don't disagree with that. But when someone states that they are going to avoid going places that they deem might be dangerous...well, that's a little sad in my opinion.


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18 Sep 2016, 5:10 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
When terrorist attacks instill the kind of fear that you exhibit, nurseangela, the terrorists have truly accomplished one of their primary goals. Get out and live life! You stand a much higher probability of dying in a fatal car accident -- or slipping in the shower and busting your head open -- than you do at the hands of a terrorist.


If it really bothered me that I wasn't able to go out and do a bunch of stuff because of all of these things happening, I would agree with you. However, I'm more of a homebody anyway, so the things happening right now just give me more of a reason not to feel bad that I don't go out. If everything was peachy keen, I still probably wouldn't be going out. That's the problem with the way life is set up today - you can do all shopping online and get everything delivered while staying in your jammies. Now school is online. Bills get paid online. It's the perfect hermit setup. There just isn't any reason to actually go out except for work. Now if I had a Hunny, of course I'd go out more. Right now, everything I need is right at home. That's why I keep wondering if I'm not at least 50% Aspie - I only can take being around people in small amounts.


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18 Sep 2016, 5:28 pm

That puts in better perspective, I guess. While I'm not the most social of animals, I don't like being indoors for too long. Of course, my escape is going out into nature. Unfortunately, due to being a caregiver to my 95-year-old mother whose physical condition keeps diminishing at a rapid rate , my opportunities have dwindled.

Still, just getting out to the store for an hour or two is helpful -- or going for a short walk.


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19 Sep 2016, 7:30 am

Knew what this was before they identified anything, Minnesota should be a testimony as to why should not allow the widespread resettlement of refugees. The Somali population of Minnesota is the most disproportionately involved in terrorism with over half of our arrests of people attempting to join ISIS and fight being from the community. I believe I read once that like a quarter these refugees carry tuberculosis too, these peoples have not integrated and how can they from a culture so foreign?



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19 Sep 2016, 12:44 pm

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Knew what this was before they identified anything, Minnesota should be a testimony as to why should not allow the widespread resettlement of refugees. The Somali population of Minnesota is the most disproportionately involved in terrorism with over half of our arrests of people attempting to join ISIS and fight being from the community. I believe I read once that like a quarter these refugees carry tuberculosis too, these peoples have not integrated and how can they from a culture so foreign?


I say it is more a reason gun-free zones aren't great...I don't think it a reason to disallow any refugees. Maybe they should find a way to do background checks and be better at deporting non-citizens or that decided to commit/support terrorism you know create better security measures in relation to the refugee situation...but there are plenty of actual refugees among the refugees and if every country decides 'keep them all out' well quite frankly it would be sort of a crime against humanity, which if people are ok with that I guess so be it. Also this particular 'attack' isn't on any larger scale than any shootings or stabbings we've had in this country by citizens.


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19 Sep 2016, 1:15 pm

What exactly is the difference between "fear" and "planning for the worst" as a motivation? What I disagree with is that the fact that something is motivated by fear is a good reason to consider it automatically discredited. Of course, you always sound tougher if you convincingly act like you don't know fear.


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19 Sep 2016, 3:18 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
When terrorist attacks instill the kind of fear that you exhibit, nurseangela, the terrorists have truly accomplished one of their primary goals. Get out and live life! You stand a much higher probability of dying in a fatal car accident -- or slipping in the shower and busting your head open -- than you do at the hands of a terrorist.


go out, have fun and if the opportunity presents itself, take revenge.

If thine enemy smite thee on thy cheek, tear his head off, sh*t down his neck and then kill his wives and children.

This principle rigorously applied will make cheek smiting extinct.


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