Finkelstein cuts through the c**p regarding UN vote

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26 Dec 2016, 12:35 pm

http://normanfinkelstein.com/2016/12/25 ... netanyahu/


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27 Dec 2016, 12:40 pm

The UN is picking on Israel because the UN is very anti-Semitic.



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28 Dec 2016, 11:44 am

DinoMongoosePenguin wrote:
The UN is picking on Israel because the UN is very anti-Semitic.


:lol: So when the UN actually put sanctions on South Africa during Apartheid they were doing it because the UN was anti-white in that period? Or now the EU and US have sanctions against Russia they're just doing it because they have a hatred for Russian people? The UN sanctions on Iraq were because they hated Iraqis? And these sanctions caused the death of hundreds of thousands of children. With regards to Israel, the UN is just supporting International Law and how it applies to Israel's illegal land theft.


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30 Dec 2016, 8:04 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
DinoMongoosePenguin wrote:
The UN is picking on Israel because the UN is very anti-Semitic.


:lol: So when the UN actually put sanctions on South Africa during Apartheid they were doing it because the UN was anti-white in that period? Or now the EU and US have sanctions against Russia they're just doing it because they have a hatred for Russian people? The UN sanctions on Iraq were because they hated Iraqis? And these sanctions caused the death of hundreds of thousands of children. With regards to Israel, the UN is just supporting International Law and how it applies to Israel's illegal land theft.


UN big-wigs: China, Russia, Iran, etc. Such great places of human rights. :roll:



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31 Dec 2016, 2:33 pm

Obama, our Magic President, was cowardly on this. Instead of voting -for- the sanction he permitted others to do the dirty dead by not vetoing the move. Natanyahu claims that Obama set up the vote in the first place and he will present evidence after Trump is sworn in.....


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06 Jan 2017, 12:49 pm

DinoMongoosePenguin wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
DinoMongoosePenguin wrote:
The UN is picking on Israel because the UN is very anti-Semitic.


:lol: So when the UN actually put sanctions on South Africa during Apartheid they were doing it because the UN was anti-white in that period? Or now the EU and US have sanctions against Russia they're just doing it because they have a hatred for Russian people? The UN sanctions on Iraq were because they hated Iraqis? And these sanctions caused the death of hundreds of thousands of children. With regards to Israel, the UN is just supporting International Law and how it applies to Israel's illegal land theft.


UN big-wigs: China, Russia, Iran, etc. Such great places of human rights. :roll:


What about the US and their pals Israel and Saudi Arabia?


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06 Jan 2017, 12:50 pm

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Obama, our Magic President, was cowardly on this. Instead of voting -for- the sanction he permitted others to do the dirty dead by not vetoing the move. Natanyahu claims that Obama set up the vote in the first place and he will present evidence after Trump is sworn in.....


Not voting for Israel's racial colonies is cowardly? He probably did, it was revenge for Netanyahu's stunt in Congress.


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06 Jan 2017, 1:39 pm

Firstly, we are implicitly dealing with sovereign nations. What if the UN should examine the land claims of La Raza, to the American southwest -- a sister movement, to the PLO, which celebrated 9-11. Is your sovereignty more important than Israel's. Is Aztlan less important than Palestine. It can't be answered, impartially, particularly, when there is no firm, legal basis for your own nationalism.

DinoMongoosePenguin wrote:
The UN is picking on Israel because the UN is very anti-Semitic.

JohnPowell wrote:
:lol: So when the UN actually put sanctions on South Africa during Apartheid they were doing it because the UN was anti-white in that period?

Have you ever seen necklacing, and what actual progress it made for South Africans. I digress, but the Mandelas were savages, in all fairness.

Call me superstitious, but the frame work for the peace accord seems to have been a Mediterranean Neighborhood Policy, numbered EU Rec 666 -- first attributed to a man, who liked to pen 666-word memorandums, who would have called Jerusalem 'the furthest outpost,' (not the center of all which is important, in the world.)

It was reportedly, so barren that barely a cactus would survive, in the time of Twain.

This now-so-vital country of Israel is said to comprise less than 1% of the landmass of the entire Mid East, with surrounding countries refusing to repatriate Palestinian "refugees," offered formal, secular citizenship as Israelis.

Was that offered to black South Africans, under apartheid.

Many of the arguments are being made out of nihilism, against the status or perceived, moral authority of Jews. Or, who should want Israel?

Also, if we are to use South Africa as an example of moral equivalence, what does South Africa have to offer, disregarding a well managed business. Let's say that we're not botanists or minerologists. Their terrorists get scrubland and failing farms, to run into the ground, and the innovators get shanties.

Especially ironic, that the discussion should take place in Paris.

I mean, if I wanted to say that all people are equal, and be totally indifferent, I would take a cue, from those show trials, where the jurors are supposed to be sequestered, to prevent media bias. I might use people from some non-aligned country, where Islamist flags are meaningless as colorful postage stamps, and "With Gates Wide Open" never happened.

Instead, these people are literally crapping all over the streets, where this is supposed to be decided, turning the landmarks into rubbish heaps.
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If you meant to decide these people's fates so mercifully, you wouldn't be doing it, where there were terror attacks.



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06 Jan 2017, 2:09 pm

No one answered my question about South Africa. I didn't realise there were refugees during the apartheid era?

Mandela and co were just doing what people in sheer desperation do to fight evil.


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06 Jan 2017, 2:31 pm

Tony Bourdain showed these people, cooking a pig's anus, on a rock.

In the time of Dr. Livingston, the dark continent was hardly populated, at that standard of living. They were reportedly prone to self-extinction, when not in captivity.

I appreciate civilization (!)

But, we have formed opinions, sheltered from natural consequences.

ie, "African Culture for Everyone." There's a good reason, for the age restrictions.



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06 Jan 2017, 5:28 pm

Who are you talking to?


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06 Jan 2017, 7:00 pm

DinoMongoosePenguin wrote:
The UN is picking on Israel because the UN is very anti-Semitic.


Oh please...your average Palestinian has more Semitic heritage than your average Yiddish or Ashkenazi person.



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07 Jan 2017, 1:45 pm

DinoMongoosePenguin wrote:
The UN is picking on Israel because the UN is very anti-Semitic.


kyria_gold wrote:
Oh please...your average Palestinian has more Semitic heritage than your average Yiddish or Ashkenazi person.


I am within the margin of error, in my genetic tests. I fit one, proposed, genetic type, for a Palestinian.

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“The good thing about Netanyahu is that he’s scared to launch wars. The bad thing about him is that he won’t do anything to reach an accommodation with the Palestinians or with the Sunni Arab states,” he continued.


Ishmael was given a Biblical land grant, and now greatly exceeds the Israeli occupation of 1/6th of 1% of the Mid East.

Concession involves ceding more of that land to Islam.

Where is the irony in refusing to compromise.



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07 Jan 2017, 1:56 pm

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UN resolution was 'declaration of war'


I believe that different nations, in the Mid East, are proxies, aligned with NATO and BRICS.

Having seen the collapse of the West, as being imminent, having been boycotted from Western markets, and, abandoned by the West, militarily, has Israel aligned with Russia.

Why do Western assets need to surround Russia, during negotiations.

What are the terms, if Israel and Russia are in military alliance.

I think we're dealing with this issue, rhetorically, academically, like civilized people, here, online.

What if it's a literal declaration of war, for these countries.



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07 Jan 2017, 2:15 pm

Telling Israel they can't build anymore racial colonies was an act of war?


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