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20 Jun 2016, 11:37 pm

Micheal Sanford tried to grab police officers gun for self described purpose of killing Trump. Public defender also told court Sanford attempted suicide. His mother tells court he was treated for OCD and anerexia when young.

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20 Jun 2016, 11:48 pm

^ Attention British People: We have enough raving lunatics in this country already. Please don't send us any more of yours. Thanks.


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22 Jun 2016, 6:31 pm

He's spectrum. He's one of us.

It's not good, no two ways about it. Now, one thing, if we say one out of a hundred persons are autistic, with a world population of 7.3 billion, that means there are 73,000,000 autistic persons in the world.

If we go with the estimate that 1 in 68 persons is spectrum, that's about one-hundred and seven million persons worldwide who are autistic.

This many people, some of them are likely to do horrendous actions. Just like any large group of people.



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22 Jun 2016, 7:17 pm

I would imagine that someone on the spectrum might be at increased risk of brainwashing and manipulation. It's possible he was reading too much crap on the internet or had met someone who influenced him negatively.

It's also possible this was a cry for help (he still deserves punishment of course).

I think it's important to look at the underlying factors and not just brush this off as a statistical anomaly. This looks like a case of radicalization whether it was self-imposed or imposed on him.



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22 Jun 2016, 9:01 pm

Begs the question of the whether the "autism defense" is legitimate.

So many on WP think autism is not a mental illness.



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22 Jun 2016, 10:17 pm

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Public defender also told court Sanford attempted suicide.

And I'm reading his would-be attack on Trump as a glorified Suicide by Cop, because he openly stated that he expected to be killed by police.
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It's not good, no two ways about it. Now, one thing, if we say one out of a hundred persons are autistic, with a world population of 7.3 billion, that means there are 73,000,000 autistic persons in the world.
If we go with the estimate that 1 in 68 persons is spectrum, that's about one-hundred and seven million persons worldwide who are autistic.
This many people, some of them are likely to do horrendous actions. Just like any large group of people.

Exactly correct. Any population of 73,000,000 to 107,000,000 people is going to experience perps who commit atrocities. That's why attacking any sizeable religion or any ethnicity or any group of people for what they are based on the actions of some loons among them is wrong.



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23 Jun 2016, 6:14 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
Begs the question of the whether the "autism defense" is legitimate.
Autism is not a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card.
LoveNotHate wrote:
So many on WP think autism is not a mental illness.
Many in the real world think that Autism makes one a sociopathic killing machine.

We'll see what the court decides.


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23 Jun 2016, 8:00 am

Life a mess, nothing to live for.

Some choose to go out with a bang, get their name in the papers.



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25 Jun 2016, 12:27 pm

yeah, but that's no way to play percentage baseball, that's what I say.



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25 Jun 2016, 12:32 pm

heavenlyabyss wrote:
This looks like a case of radicalization whether it was self-imposed or imposed on him.
I don't really buy the whole FBI theory of radicalization.

For example, I've been involved in the peace movement in my United States time to time since the late '80s. And I'm radicalized in the sense that I think the foreign policy of my country is pretty awful. But principled nonviolence, re-inventing good solid journalism, etc, those are the solutions. Not more senseless violence.

PS Activism can be as disorganized, and have as much one-upsmanship and hierarchy as anything else.



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25 Jun 2016, 12:44 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Begs the question of the whether the "autism defense" is legitimate.

So many on WP think autism is not a mental illness.


Didnt know that there ever was such a thing as an "autism defense".

Never heard of it before now.



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25 Jun 2016, 4:33 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Begs the question of the whether the "autism defense" is legitimate.

So many on WP think autism is not a mental illness.


Didnt know that there ever was such a thing as an "autism defense".

Never heard of it before now.


Shysters will reach into the bag for anything to defend their clients, regardless of the possible long term harm it could cause to a marginalized and misunderstood group like autistics.


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25 Jun 2016, 5:09 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Begs the question of the whether the "autism defense" is legitimate.

So many on WP think autism is not a mental illness.


Didnt know that there ever was such a thing as an "autism defense".

Never heard of it before now.


Shysters will reach into the bag for anything to defend their clients, regardless of the possible long term harm it could cause to a marginalized and misunderstood group like autistics.


Yeah, they throw anything at the wall to see if it sticks: the Twinky defense, affluenza, etc.

But has "autism" actually been invoked to defend a murderer, and if so has it been used successfully?



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25 Jun 2016, 5:11 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Begs the question of the whether the "autism defense" is legitimate.

So many on WP think autism is not a mental illness.


Didnt know that there ever was such a thing as an "autism defense".

Never heard of it before now.


Shysters will reach into the bag for anything to defend their clients, regardless of the possible long term harm it could cause to a marginalized and misunderstood group like autistics.


Yeah, they throw anything at the wall to see if it sticks: the Twinky defense, affluenza, etc.

But has "autism" actually been invoked to defend a murderer, and if so has it been used successfully?


That I really don't know. I have to think if it had been used, it probably didn't work.


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25 Jun 2016, 6:38 pm

If someone is known to be autistic then they must have come in contact with the medical industry. Very likely prescribed this that and the other thing. One day the connection between prescribed medication and all kinds of bad things will be made.



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18 Dec 2016, 4:01 am

Would-Be Trump Assassin Gets a Year in Prison

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Sandford has Asperger’s syndrome, a mild form of autism, but his attorney Brenda Weksler said he was competent to stand trial before he entered his guilty plea.


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