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nurseangela
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23 Feb 2017, 12:41 am

Ma just told me there's a man- hunt out for this guy! He shot 3 men - 2 critical sent to KU Med and 1 in serious condition. The man is still on the loose! Probably headed for my condoplex (with my luck). Time to set the alarm and get out Big Sig. :mrgreen:

https://www.google.com/amp/fox4kc.com/2 ... grill/amp/

The SWAT team was there too! They've been busy this week. :mrgreen:


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23 Feb 2017, 5:45 am

Olathe police say one victim in Austins Bar and Grill shooting has died; suspect arrested in Missouri


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24 Feb 2017, 10:54 am

It went national. They are calling it a racial shooting. Weird. They were watching the KU game then two ended up at KU Hospital with one dying. Life can sure change on a dime.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/24/in ... +-+Text%29

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"Purinton, 51, was taken into custody about five hours after the shooting after he told a bartender at an Applebee's some 70 miles away in Clinton, Missouri, that he had been involved in a shooting. He has been charged with murder and attempted murder."


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24 Feb 2017, 11:37 am

He killed an Indian Engineer with a master's degree from the University of Texas working at Garmin.

Why don't we have more Americans with advanced engineering degrees? It isn't like the bad old days in which blacks were legally separated from advanced education opportunities.



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25 Feb 2017, 9:55 am

BTDT wrote:
He killed an Indian Engineer with a master's degree from the University of Texas working at Garmin.

Why don't we have more Americans with advanced engineering degrees? It isn't like the bad old days in which blacks were legally separated from advanced education opportunities.

Many but not all black communities in poor areas, as well as some but not all white communities in poor areas, have such poorly performing schools that they are separated from advanced educational opportunities with high probability. This is not legal, but only in theory. The laws just aren't enforced.

Also, weird that this is turning into coded racism thread, with no denouncements of the racist idiot who did the shooting, or the other racist idiots who gave him the idea.


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25 Feb 2017, 10:04 am

The President's press secretary assured us there was no connection, though I wonder, how would he know?



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25 Feb 2017, 10:59 am

He thought they were Muslim, even though they were Indian.



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25 Feb 2017, 11:00 am

jrjones9933 wrote:
BTDT wrote:
He killed an Indian Engineer with a master's degree from the University of Texas working at Garmin.

Why don't we have more Americans with advanced engineering degrees? It isn't like the bad old days in which blacks were legally separated from advanced education opportunities.

Many but not all black communities in poor areas, as well as some but not all white communities in poor areas, have such poorly performing schools that they are separated from advanced educational opportunities with high probability. This is not legal, but only in theory. The laws just aren't enforced.

Also, weird that this is turning into coded racism thread, with no denouncements of the racist idiot who did the shooting, or the other racist idiots who gave him the idea.


There is another cause to this issue of why we do not have as many American engineers as we did in the past. I have personally seen it happening in my chemistry students over the past few years of teaching. In a nutshell, America has gotten away from pushing "harder" science and mathematics courses upon their high school students as a requirement for a high school diploma. Because the students can graduate without having polished their critical thinking skills, many seldom go into STEM fields as they are behind the ball if they go the college route.

Part of it has to do with a lack of good qualified teachers in those areas. In many instances, it is the sports coaches who are teaching those classes to them as a "filler" for their job duties. While I am sure that there are good ones among them, there is bound to be some that are not up to par. This is not a good situation for their students. This can be a simple budget issue problem, as some schools are stretched as thin as they can go by state funds. Science classes can cost more than other classes just for the supplies that are needed to be able to teach with.

Another part of it is resistance by parents in forcing their kids to have to take challenging classes on top of everything else. Some parents push their kids into so many extracurricular activities that they lose sight on what is important: their kid's education. I have known parents that try to relive their high school life by making their kids do the same sports that they excelled in, never mind that the kid did not want to play those sports. Usually school work is regulated down in comparison to the sport practice/events.

Still another part has to do with how we perceive success in America. Look, I grew up with MTV (back when it still had actual music videos) but I did not plan my career around it. Unfortunately, there are some students who see people getting rich and famous on there (and other reality channels) without ever really doing anything to deserve it. They then think that they would like to have that life also. So, that becomes their life plan. They do not see working hard as a positive thing to do. Kinda reminds me of the ant and the grasshopper fable...

I understand why a career in STEM is just not interesting to many Americans. You have to constantly work to obtain the degrees while others can sometimes float along partying in easier majors, so your GPA is usually lower in comparison. You have to be willing to work long hours at a time and days on end to get projects done on time at your job. You have to compete with the world instead of just your fellow American workers for the same jobs. (And if you go into teaching STEM, you still have to do all of the above at a much lower pay than what you would get in industry.)

I wish I had an easy fix for this, but alas I do not.



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25 Feb 2017, 11:16 am

Interesting discussion for another thread.

Can we get back to this vile, racist murderer who was so uninformed that he shot a guy in a bar for being a radical muslim?


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25 Feb 2017, 2:45 pm

This story is getting bigger than I thought it would.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.bbc.co.u ... p/39089010

From the article :

"There has been shock and anger in India after a shooting at a bar in the US state of Kansas left one Indian man, Srinivas Kuchibhotla, dead and another, Alok Madasani, wounded. Police are investigating whether the shooting was racially motivated. The BBC takes a closer look at the two men and an American, Ian Grillot, who was also injured."


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25 Feb 2017, 2:57 pm

Witness recalls moments before, after Olathe shooting

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25 Feb 2017, 2:59 pm

Kansas shooting: Widow of Indian man calls for action on hate crimes

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25 Feb 2017, 3:02 pm

Kansas governor, legislators react to fatal Olathe bar shooting

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05 Mar 2017, 2:45 am

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He thought they were Muslim, even though they were Indian.


He saw brown skin, and might have heard foreign accents, and that's all he probably figured justified murder.


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05 Mar 2017, 9:37 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
wowiexist wrote:
He thought they were Muslim, even though they were Indian.


He saw brown skin, and might have heard foreign accents, and that's all he probably figured justified murder.

Bet you he was not a liberal.


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05 Mar 2017, 11:18 am

Misslizard wrote:
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wowiexist wrote:
He thought they were Muslim, even though they were Indian.


He saw brown skin, and might have heard foreign accents, and that's all he probably figured justified murder.

Bet you he was not a liberal.


I know I'd lose that bet. :lol:


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