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05 Mar 2017, 2:49 am

Mother helps disabled son kill himself; concern about his sexual tendencies

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A GOLD Coast nurse has been sentenced to three years in jail for helping her son kill himself after he was arrested for child pornography offences.

Kim Margaret Earle, 50, pleaded guilty to manslaughter in the Brisbane Supreme Court today.


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05 Mar 2017, 7:17 am

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helping her son kill himself after he was arrested for child pornography offences.

If he was a pedophile and he wanted to die then the only problem is that she is spending time in jail.



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05 Mar 2017, 10:00 pm

androbot01 wrote:
If he was a pedophile and he wanted to die then the only problem is that she is spending time in jail.


What a stupid thing to say. Did you even read the article?

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The court was told an incredibly harrowing tale of a woman struggling to cope with her 18-year-old son, who she believed suffered from Asperger’s syndrome, and his disturbing obsession with child pornography.

A distressed Earle informed her son he could be arrested, and he replied that he would rather kill himself than face jail.

So when he was arrested on December 18, 2013, she went to the Gold Coast University Hospital - where she had worked since 2010 - and obtained anaesthesia drugs.

Upon his release from the watch-house the next day, she administered the drugs to her son, and he died in their home.


This isn't suicide, not even manslaughter, but murder, but of course they didn't see it this way.

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The charge was downgraded to manslaughter because the Mental Health Court determined she had diminished responsibility due to mental health issues.


They don't specify what kind of "mental health issues" she had, but since she was "struggling to cope" with her son who had Asperger's Syndrome (which was "harrowing"), it must have been all his fault. Yet one more story about how a "poor mother" is given a reduced sentence because she murdered someone who made her life hell simply because he was different from the norm, because of who he was. Disgusting.



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06 Mar 2017, 3:59 am

Lintar wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
If he was a pedophile and he wanted to die then the only problem is that she is spending time in jail.


What a stupid thing to say. Did you even read the article?

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... and his disturbing obsession with child pornography.

Did you even read your own quote?

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...she murdered someone who made her life hell simply because he was different from the norm, because of who he was. Disgusting.

Yes those poor pedophiles are so misunderstood. We really should be more accepting. :roll:



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06 Mar 2017, 7:53 am

or she made this all up ...

the kid didn't have AS, and didn't have a "child porn addiction"



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06 Mar 2017, 12:56 pm

The kid was arrested on child pornography charges. The kid might very well have not been autistic. His "Aspergers" was something his mother believed he had.


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06 Mar 2017, 3:14 pm

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Yes those poor pedophiles are so misunderstood. We really should be more accepting. :roll:


So, alleged pedophilia makes murder ok?


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06 Mar 2017, 5:41 pm

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androbot01 wrote:
Yes those poor pedophiles are so misunderstood. We really should be more accepting. :roll:


So, alleged pedophilia makes murder ok?


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Justice Roslyn Atkinson said Brandon's interest in sadomasochism and child porn had reached the point where he wanted to kill himself following his arrest for child pornography offences and his mother couldn't see any way out.

"Essentially, you helped him to die out of your great love for him," Justice Roslyn Atkinson said as she sentenced Earle.

"There are not many cases where the killing is committed out of love."

After already spending just over three years in custody, Justice Atkinson said Earle had suffered enough and should be released in three months.
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He was arrested for child porn offenses and wanted to kill himself. His own mother thought he was better of dead. She served 3 years already. I don't think she should have served any time and am glad she will be released soon.



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06 Mar 2017, 7:01 pm

Pedophilia is something you do not want to have. I see it as an illness.


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06 Mar 2017, 8:43 pm

androbot01 wrote:
Lintar wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
If he was a pedophile and he wanted to die then the only problem is that she is spending time in jail.


What a stupid thing to say. Did you even read the article?

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... and his disturbing obsession with child pornography.

Did you even read your own quote?

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...she murdered someone who made her life hell simply because he was different from the norm, because of who he was. Disgusting.

Yes those poor pedophiles are so misunderstood. We really should be more accepting. :roll:


I wasn't defending anyone, simply pointing out that - from the information we were given in the article - this wasn't suicide, or someone assisting a suicide, but murder. I got the impression from your first response that the fact that he spent much of his time looking at things he shouldn't have been looking at meant that he deserved to be killed. Well, no, I cannot go along with this, even if the victim in question had a personality that most would find unacceptable. If he had been, for example, a drug dealer instead, would your attitude have remained the same? What if he had been a thief instead? Murderer? Yes, No?

Where do we draw the line between those who deserve death, and those who do not? Who decides, and why? This is why the civilised world has done away with capital punishment, because there are just so many potential pitfalls to it (ex. executing a convicted person who later on turned out to be innocent).



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06 Mar 2017, 8:53 pm

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He was arrested for child porn offenses and wanted to kill himself. His own mother thought he was better of dead. She served 3 years already. I don't think she should have served any time and am glad she will be released soon.


Oh, okay then. So someone who is suicidal, committed offenses, and whose own mother believes to be "better off dead", can be murdered. Cool.

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06 Mar 2017, 8:58 pm

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Pedophilia is something you do not want to have. I see it as an illness.


If - IF - it is indeed an illness, then what the people who have it deserve is treatment, not prison. We wouldn't lock someone up for having cancer or diabetes, would we? Yet, we have vicious people who see themselves as vigilantes recommending death. The utter absurdity of it all.

(...and I just BET that someone will say in response to this, "You're defending pedophilia!" No, I'm NOT)



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07 Mar 2017, 7:44 am

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If he had been, for example, a drug dealer instead, would your attitude have remained the same? What if he had been a thief instead? Murderer? Yes, No?

Where do we draw the line between those who deserve death, and those who do not? Who decides, and why? This is why the civilised world has done away with capital punishment, because there are just so many potential pitfalls to it (ex. executing a convicted person who later on turned out to be innocent).


The case cited in this thread is not an example of capital punishment. It is what I would call an assisted suicide or at worst manslaughter. You are creating a strawman.



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07 Mar 2017, 8:08 am

I'm very ambivalent when it comes to assisted suicide--especially in a young person.

I remember feeling hopeless at 16, and sort of wishing I would just go away from the world; that's NOT a good reason to kill yourself.

If somebody has terminal cancer, though, then I might change my mind about euthanasia.

I find death to have a certainly finality which could really be quite a waste.



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07 Mar 2017, 9:04 am

androbot01 wrote:
Lintar wrote:
If he had been, for example, a drug dealer instead, would your attitude have remained the same? What if he had been a thief instead? Murderer? Yes, No?

Where do we draw the line between those who deserve death, and those who do not? Who decides, and why? This is why the civilised world has done away with capital punishment, because there are just so many potential pitfalls to it (ex. executing a convicted person who later on turned out to be innocent).


The case cited in this thread is not an example of capital punishment. It is what I would call an assisted suicide or at worst manslaughter. You are creating a strawman.



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A distressed Earle informed her son he could be arrested, and he replied that he would rather kill himself than face jail.


Based on this, it's something a lot of people would come out with, and not necessarily mean it. Yes, aspies too. I would not call this assisted suicide just based on that evidence.


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07 Mar 2017, 9:12 am

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/despit ... id=U218DHP

Yet another example. Current USA laws allow a mentally ill person who can manage their own financial affairs to buy a gun with a SSDI check despite the concerns of her mother. Guess this is just the price of freedom. :roll: