U.S. attacks Syria
there is no way Assad can be overthrow that doesn't cause more violence and more territory in the hands of Islamic extremists who have used gas many times themselves. I'd like to actually see the evidence that Assad personally called for the use of this gas which makes no sense considering the Syrian governments position in the war
That is a very thoughtfull comment.
In the age of predator drones and smart bombs, it seems an odd choice to use technology from the 80s. Low flying, slow moving cruise missiles.
Predator drones are for shooting individual humans (they supplement human snipers,and human special ops like Chris Kyle, or Navy Seals).Not for destroying "things" (big buildings, factories, or ships, or airbases). So using a drone would be taking a knife to an artillery dual.
Smart bombs (like old fashioned dumb bombs) have to be dropped from manned airplanes. Cruise missles are essentially robot kamikazee planes (both the bomber and the bomb) that can be launched from a distance (a destroyer can become, in effect an aircraft carrier, by launching cruise missiles out at sea).
So in my humble opinion if you wanna take out buildings, and not assassinate individual people, and dont want to risk the lives of human pilots cruise missles are what to use.
In the age of predator drones and smart bombs, it seems an odd choice to use technology from the 80s. Low flying, slow moving cruise missiles.
Predator drones are for shooting individual humans (they supplement human snipers,and human special ops like Chris Kyle, or Navy Seals).Not for destroying "things" (big buildings, factories, or ships, or airbases). So using a drone would be taking a knife to an artillery dual.
Smart bombs (like old fashioned dumb bombs) have to be dropped from manned airplanes. Cruise missles are essentially robot kamikazee planes (both the bomber and the bomb) that can be launched from a distance (a destroyer can become, in effect an aircraft carrier, by launching cruise missiles out at sea).
So in my humble opinion if you wanna take out buildings, and not assassinate individual people, and dont want to risk the lives of human pilots cruise missles are what to use.
Dones can carry hellfire missles and smart bombs can be dropped far away or high altitude.
Im sorry, but your post doesnt seem to make any sense.
Im sorry, but your post doesnt seem to make any sense.
I think what the're saying is that it doesn't make any sense for Assad to do this. What purpose would there be in ordering the use of chemical weapons?
Russia and others have argued that there were chemical weapons kept by the rebels in the factory the Syrian Air Force bombed, which Assad did not know about. If that's the case, then Assad and the Syrian government are not the ones responsible.
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“It angers and saddens me that President Trump has taken the advice of war hawks and escalated our illegal regime change war to overthrow the Syrian government. This escalation is short-sighted and will lead to more dead civilians, more refugees, the strengthening of al-Qaeda and other terrorists, and a direct confrontation between the United States and Russia—which could lead to nuclear war.
“This Administration has acted recklessly without care or consideration of the dire consequences of the United States attack on Syria without waiting for the collection of evidence from the scene of the chemical poisoning. If President Assad is indeed guilty of this horrible chemical attack on innocent civilians, I will be the first to call for his prosecution and execution by the International Criminal Court. However, because of our attack on Syria, this investigation may now not even be possible. And without such evidence, a successful prosecution will be much harder.”
https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press-re ... rt-sighted
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These missiles struck the airbase that supposedly these chemicals were flown out of; they bombed the runways, planes, hangars, whatever infrastructure but they warned the Russians ahead of time(who would of warned the Sryians) so the casualties are minuscule if any. At this point I don't know what comes next, it was a punitive strike and meant to send a message. Is it the start of something bigger or was it just a flexing of muscle? Nixon's 'madman theory' seems to be in full effect with Trump, it would be a real reversal to suddenly start supporting the neocon position on Syria.
Trump and Putin need to meet ASAP, we need peace with Russia to have peace in the middle east
In 2016 alone, the last year of his presidency -- just one year -- Obama dropped more than 12,000 bombs on Syria, more than 12,000 bombs on Iraq, more than 1300 bombs on Afghanistan, almost 500 bombs on Libya, and more than 50 bombs together on Somalia, Pakistan, and Yemen.
And then people wonder why ISIS hates America ...
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The media expects us to believe that in 2013, UN inspectors went into Syria to inspect a chemical weapons attack that was thought to be carried out by the 'rebels', and on that day, Assad thought it'd be a good idea to bomb his own people with chemical weapons after Obama had said that they were the red line. Then this week. Trump had reversed Obama's policy of supporting terrorists to fight Assad and this week had said that Assad could stay if the Syrian people wish for it and there was a peace conference going on, Assad was winning the war and it was expected to be won by October, so the media expects us to believe that this week he chose to bomb children with chemical weapons.
This is Israel's war and they have bombed Syria on numerous occasions, flying right over ISIS and Al Nusra to bomb the Syrian army. The base that the US bombed was the main base used to fight ISIS, and now ISIS have launched an offensive thanks to the US.
So much for all the garbage about Trump being a Russian puppet, he's a war machine puppet and they finally got him to do what they wanted. If the US really cares about children, they must have amnesia given that they had sanctions put on Iraq that killed 500,000 children and only last week they bombed Iraq again, killing 200 civilians, including women and children. Where was your beloved media then? The fake outrage by these war mongers and shills is sickening!
If you're thinking this is just because of Trump, then think again if you're capable of doing so. Because Clinton would have done the same, just probably sooner in the year and Obama has bombed Syria, though claiming it to be an accident. The war machine rules, not shape shifting Russians, the NWO or illuminati or whatever the hell. The BBC, CNN, FOX. All of them are mouthpieces of the war industry and it's time people saw that. Only the people can stop these wars. Please call your local politicians and pester them not to get involved in Syria, cause this could go to another vote.
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A completely disingenuous article from a shill for the war machine, making it look like she is only "reluctantly" wanting to go to war:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tru ... d8e016ec08
This is where she gets disingenuous.
This completely misrepresents the situation, making it seem like like questioning the official narrative is lunatic. In reality, there is a serious question over whether this was the Syrian government's job, or if there is another explanation, like there being chemical weapons stored at the rebel-controlled factory that was bombed.
Total shill.
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What counts as slow? And how difficult is it to intercept a 500mph, 800kph, cruise missile flying at treetop height on its final approach to target?
Oh, and these are Not your grandfather's cruise missiles ...
References:
http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_displ ... =1300&ct=2
And newer ones surpass both drone and manned aircraft performance
http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/tomahawk/
http://gizmodo.com/this-tomahawk-is-a-m ... 1536509027
Tomahawk can be launched from a ship or submarine and can fly into heavily defended airspace more than 1,000 miles away to conduct precise strikes on high-value targets with minimal collateral damage. Launching the weapon from such a long distance helps to keep sailors out of harm's way.
The latest variant (Tomahawk Block IV) includes a two-way satellite data-link that enables the missile to be retargeted in flight to preprogrammed, alternate targets. The Block IV design was initiated as both a cost savings and a capability improvement effort.
"This is not the Tomahawk of the past," said Roy Donelson, Raytheon Tomahawk program director in a press statement. "Today's Tomahawk Block IV is a mature, highly advanced, intelligent weapon we are modernizing. Tomahawk helps to preserve freedom around the globe and continues to be the nation's weapon of choice."
The Block IV Tomahawks are the smartest cruise missiles yet. They incorporate a two-way data link, allowing it to be remotely piloted like a UAV and guided towards its target from any of its on-board sensors. That link also allows the missile to collect and transmit real-time reconnaissance data, in the form of single frame images, while it's en route to ruining somebody's week. What's more, each Tomahawk is equipped with a jam-resistant GPS receiver allowing it to loiter over targets and be actively re-targeted while in-flight.
Depending on the terrain, the missile will use either GPS for navigation in sea skim mode—a low-altitude flight over the waves at high subsonic speeds—or its Terrain Contour Matching (TERCOM) over land. Either way, the Block IV's have a range of 900 nmi (1,000 miles)—two hundred more than their predecessors—while maintaining their accuracy of a 10 meter range.
http://www.americanhistory.si.edu/subs/ ... index.html
Decided to play in Google looking for another reference on TERCOM, found this;
Now that jammers are cheap and potentially ubiquitous, how do Tomahawk missiles stay on course?
March 20, 2011
Fortunately, cruise missiles have been around even longer than GPS satellite navigation, so they have a second system to allow them to be as accurate as possible: Terrain Contour Matching.
Terrain Contour Matching, or TERCOM “uses a pre-recorded contour map of the terrain that is compared to measurements made during flight by an on-board radar altimeter.” In other words, elaborate, Google Earth-style satellite maps of the terrain of interest can be compared to data gathered by an onboard radar system that is constantly bouncing signals off the ground below in order to measure changes in elevation.
Such a system is much more difficult to jam; even if the radar on which it depends received interference, TERCOM is combined with another, even older method of navigation known as an intertial navigation system (INS).
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Where I live we sometimes have AFRES A-10 following the Missouri River to apparently make practice runs on the highway and railroad bridges. They typically come in at and often below treetop height and riverside building height.
I have yet to successfully get a photo of one because they are here and gone before my camera can start.
Now, imagine something less than half the size of an A-10 doing similar at twice NASCAR speeds - there's almost nothing you can do about it.
That's why ya use cruise missiles.
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it is.
if the growth of undesirable weeds is left unchecked, then one is soon festooned with choking vines.
the cruise missiles are quite a targeted utility.
their blast radius is quite limited, as most of the energy is projected forward in order to penetrate defensive materials covering important strategic targets.
if trump just signed out and said "that's it world....you can do what you like without fear of the USA", then such mayhem would result that it would provide fertile fields from within a much more powerful opposing force can be grown.
a strategic move may be to state that the USA has relinquished interest in the rest of the worlds affairs, in order to encourage the worms to come out of the woodwork as it were.
then strike their holes.
i still have some faith in trump although he has transcended what i would dare to do.
to act on his own and order that retaliation without the backing of congress (which is a bag of pillows designed to break ones fall) is an act of either insanity or genius.
even the most delusional psychotics would likely, in their sliver of reference to reality, realize that a nuclear strike is the same as suicide, so i very much believe that only a person who is totally divorced from reality would make a decision such as that. and i believe, that like king "whoever it was" that went insane for a while (was it henry the 1st?)
, he would be removed from a decision making capacity post haste.
trump used the emotional trigger of seeing innocent children ....blah blah ...blah....(it's always innocent children isn't it ?) to justify his targeting of the syrian strong points.
and the reports that putin is not happy would probably be crafted to deflect the notions that there is an american-russian conspiracy. putin denounced the gassing as barbarous. but to look like they are in almost collusion with the USA would cause so much political strife.
quietly i think putin is approving and want's to wash his hands of the drain in that area.
i mean what's in it for russia but a border strategy to be so interested in supporting it?
syria is lust a lame millstone.
i think both putin and trump quietly realize that.