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Humans are irredeemable? Do you view racism as an inherent trait or as a learned response?
Even as an agnostic, untrusting of my fellow man, I can see some glimmer of hope. In a distant future.
In the case of the industrialized west, where whites are the majority and have most of the power, and where conservatives are the bloc yearning for the "good old days," even if those good old days were plagued with racism and other forms of discrimination, then the answer is essentially, yes.
That is a rationalization. The Reagan years were nothing like that.
Showcase sounds like put there for display purposes.
Contrary to what conservatives say today, racism is not a thing of the past, and it still needs to be fought.
I think it's inadvertently being kept alive.
It's not being inadvertently being kept alive. It's alive, because there are still people who hate "the other." To say that it's being kept alive by talking about it is actually meaning, just keep quiet about being stepped on.
Bill Maher said it: The new racism is denying racism still exists.
So when does it ever end?
Edit: I know, when conservatives no longer exist, right?
No of course not; there are many fair minded conservatives who hate racism.
As for when will it end? When there are no longer any humans.
But racism is mainly a problem because of white conservatives correct?
Dos the sun rise in the morning?
Ah so to avoid the chance of becoming allied with neo-nazis and the kkk, I should avoid becoming a conservative like the plague, correct?
It's an issue because it still exists. Anybody who doesn't believe racism exists is BLIND and DELUSIONAL. It stares you in the face.
Saying this, I don't believe in things like "affirmative action."
You even have racist liberals. And socially-liberal conservatives.
I've had bad encounters with liberals, good encounters with conservatives.
I don't see the surrealism, in having a white conservative, in favor of other white conservatives.
I find it strange, having a conservative Raelian or bronie. Being "out" and conservative is the contradiction.
In the Christian tradition, spokespeople are supposed to be irreproachable. Open homosexuality is a reproach to conservatism, if not liberalism. Trump ,Talbert, and the snowflakes all know this is an incursion, into a sort of safespace, actually, a sort of sexual violation. You are a party to it and don't want to be.
Saying this, I don't believe in things like "affirmative action."
You even have racist liberals. And socially-liberal conservatives.
I've had bad encounters with liberals, good encounters with conservatives.
The question is how universally strong it is these days in governing western society.
It's not as strong as it used to be----but racism still has its impact. There isn't much "de jure" racism any more; but "de facto" racism still exists to a considerable extent, especially on the "grass roots" level.
"Minorities" have made great inroads since the 1960s--perhaps even more so in Europe than in the US. But racism still leaves its stamp---especially when it comes to where one lives.
In New York City, you have your "mixed" neighborhoods--but you also still have neighborhoods and schools which are still "enclaves" for people of one race or another, and who actively seek to keep out the other race.
If "the West" continues to lend credence to nationalists and reactionaries, and puts them at the seat of governments, racism will have more of an impact than it does at present.
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Humans are irredeemable? Do you view racism as an inherent trait or as a learned response?
Even as an agnostic, untrusting of my fellow man, I can see some glimmer of hope. In a distant future.
In the case of the industrialized west, where whites are the majority and have most of the power, and where conservatives are the bloc yearning for the "good old days," even if those good old days were plagued with racism and other forms of discrimination, then the answer is essentially, yes.
That is a rationalization. The Reagan years were nothing like that.
We are not redeemable by ourselves. I look to the carpenter's son for that.
I'm a Lutheran, so what can I say, other than that I'm very pessimistic about any goodness coming from human nature.
In regard to the good old days: there has always been racism, even under the Reagan years. Maybe not as bad as other times in the past, but certainly things weren't coming up roses for minorities back in those days. My initial point was, instead of looking to the flawed past, we should always be looking forward to the potential betterment of the future.
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An unintentionally-accurate answer, for how a Maoist struggle session ends.
Look at my response to Shrapnel, and I doubt you'll see anything Maoist about it.
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I have people around me, in person, who can question the literal measuring tape, levels, scales, and so on.
So, what is the class warfare narrative called, nowadays, if not a Maoist struggle session? There are probably dozens of expressions, in which a dictatorship of the proletariat shouts-down the old guard.
Do you think it was against the rules, for a cultural conservative to admit to cultural biases? I have some. Was it not obvious?
Now what?
To each, his own, is all I have asked.
Every needful thing has been done privately, before. If you don't like me, don't ask. What is the problem.
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So, what is the class warfare narrative called, nowadays, if not a Maoist struggle session? There are probably dozens of expressions, in which a dictatorship of the proletariat shouts-down the old guard.
Do you think it was against the rules, for a cultural conservative to admit to cultural biases? I have some. Was it not obvious?
Now what?
To each, his own, is all I have asked.
Every needful thing has been done privately, before. If you don't like me, don't ask. What is the problem.
I was talking about my pessimistic view of human nature, and in particular, one of it's uglier manifestations, racism. What does that have to do with any sort of Maoist totalitarian philosophy?
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Do you know the origin of the word racism? In Russia, Communism was considered a foreign interest. So, they accused dissenters of racism. Racism is a comparatively-new word.
Tribalism and familiarity are as natural as any herd or hive of animals. I expect people to favor their own. Other people, too. I, for one, asked inappropriate questions, in the second grade, before any of my relatives opened-up about that. It was left up to me, to decide. My parents were then, and still are, adamant liberals. Adamant. This was not a product of my upbringing.
Rand called it objectivism. Are you not?
As for a struggle session, it is mainly intended to shame a person, publicly, and wear him down. You know I stand by my beliefs. Were you sincerely curious, and intending to learn something? Or, was it a grand stand.
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