Anti-Muslim Group Hosting Rallies Across The US

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10 Jun 2017, 4:46 pm

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/anti-muslim-act-america-stage-marches-against-sharia-law-nationwide-n767386


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10 Jun 2017, 8:42 pm

Good! It's about time people began waking up to the evil that is Islam.

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In some cities, the rallies were met by counter-demonstrators.


So there are people in the U.S. who WANT Sharia Law imposed upon them?! 8O



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11 Jun 2017, 1:21 am

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Good! It's about time people began waking up to the evil that is Islam.

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In some cities, the rallies were met by counter-demonstrators.


So there are people in the U.S. who WANT Sharia Law imposed upon them?! 8O


No, it's a matter of the protesters understanding that Muslims represent such a tiny percentage of the American public that enforcing Sharia law would be impossible. Rather, the group in question is interested in targeting a group they feel they can be bigoted against, and get away with it.
Muslim Americans are just that: Americans. They deserve the same rights and privileges that the rest of us enjoy.


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11 Jun 2017, 3:53 am

Looking at her history growing up, I'm not surprised she feels as strongly as she does. It would be interesting to know how Sharia Law has affected politics in America, if it has. She is an Arab and I would assume it's likely she wouldn't go against her own kind, though she wasn't, because she was raised a Christian. I think she's right that Islam should be reformed.

As a (half) Arab myself, I really don't think much of muslims abducting, raping and murdering Coptic Christian women and converting their religion to Islam in Egypt (if they survive).

Personally, I don't understand why it's such a backwards and terrible thing to believe in God, and you're somehow insane or mad, the way people talk to you. Or even if people don't express how they feel, they still shrug, like, "Well, hmm *sigh* it's up to you, but I wouldn't do it", and you go down in "maturity" in their books, and worst case scenario they exclude you from their lives as being too backwards.

Yet all muslims are excluded from all this judgement.


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11 Jun 2017, 11:46 am

The US doesn't have the real Sharia issues like Europe does and hopefully we're not stupid enough to ever allow it to happen so I don't really see why 'banning' Sharia law is so controversial. These same people crying about this probably want to ban the 10 Commandments, prayer in school, and tax churches; I think a lot of people that pose as anti-religious are more simply anti-Christian moreso than anything else. The US constitution is the supreme law of the land, religious law has no place in this country.



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11 Jun 2017, 1:52 pm

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The US doesn't have the real Sharia issues like Europe does and hopefully we're not stupid enough to ever allow it to happen so I don't really see why 'banning' Sharia law is so controversial. These same people crying about this probably want to ban the 10 Commandments, prayer in school, and tax churches; I think a lot of people that pose as anti-religious are more simply anti-Christian moreso than anything else. The US constitution is the supreme law of the land, religious law has no place in this country.


Banning Sharia law in America amounts to banning cohabitation with swamp monsters. That is, there's no need to enforce such a law as that's never going to happen.


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11 Jun 2017, 2:01 pm

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The US doesn't have the real Sharia issues like Europe does and hopefully we're not stupid enough to ever allow it to happen so I don't really see why 'banning' Sharia law is so controversial. These same people crying about this probably want to ban the 10 Commandments, prayer in school, and tax churches; I think a lot of people that pose as anti-religious are more simply anti-Christian moreso than anything else. The US constitution is the supreme law of the land, religious law has no place in this country.


Banning Sharia law in America amounts to banning cohabitation with swamp monsters. That is, there's no need to enforce such a law as that's never going to happen.


So what does it matter then?



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11 Jun 2017, 2:04 pm

Maybe it's more of a prevention strategy?


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11 Jun 2017, 2:23 pm

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Jacoby wrote:
The US doesn't have the real Sharia issues like Europe does and hopefully we're not stupid enough to ever allow it to happen so I don't really see why 'banning' Sharia law is so controversial. These same people crying about this probably want to ban the 10 Commandments, prayer in school, and tax churches; I think a lot of people that pose as anti-religious are more simply anti-Christian moreso than anything else. The US constitution is the supreme law of the land, religious law has no place in this country.


Banning Sharia law in America amounts to banning cohabitation with swamp monsters. That is, there's no need to enforce such a law as that's never going to happen.


So what does it matter then?


Because it demonizes a segment of our population; namely, Muslim Americans. The whole point of this campaign is based on prejudice and fear of Americans of the Islamic faith. It's no different than laws forbidding interracial marriage in the Jim Crow south, or how speaking German was forbidden in certain parts of the country during WWI. Any law directed at a whole group of people based on their religion, language, or ethnicity is completely adverse to the ideals this country was based on.


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11 Jun 2017, 2:27 pm

It's a similar argument used against making English the official language here in the US. Linguistic separatism I think is a real worry, US needs to do more to ensure a harmonious society with assimilation and actually protect the basic tenets of culture.



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11 Jun 2017, 2:30 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The US doesn't have the real Sharia issues like Europe does and hopefully we're not stupid enough to ever allow it to happen so I don't really see why 'banning' Sharia law is so controversial. These same people crying about this probably want to ban the 10 Commandments, prayer in school, and tax churches; I think a lot of people that pose as anti-religious are more simply anti-Christian moreso than anything else. The US constitution is the supreme law of the land, religious law has no place in this country.


Banning Sharia law in America amounts to banning cohabitation with swamp monsters. That is, there's no need to enforce such a law as that's never going to happen.


So what does it matter then?


Because it demonizes a segment of our population; namely, Muslim Americans. The whole point of this campaign is based on prejudice and fear of Americans of the Islamic faith. It's no different than laws forbidding interracial marriage in the Jim Crow south, or how speaking German was forbidden in certain parts of the country during WWI. Any law directed at a whole group of people based on their religion, language, or ethnicity is completely adverse to the ideals this country was based on.


Ugh what? No, it's not like Jim Crow at all. Are you actually arguing for the use of Sharia law for 'tolerance'? I don't think there is anything wrong with saying Islamic extremism should not be welcomed in America. How does this effect the rights of Muslims unless you're arguing that Sharia law should be used in the US?



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11 Jun 2017, 2:32 pm

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It's a similar argument used against making English the official language here in the US. Linguistic separatism I think is a real worry, US needs to do more to ensure a harmonious society with assimilation and actually protect the basic tenets of culture.


Some immigrant groups come slower to speaking English than others, but all eventually do. My dad's family had come to America in the late 1860s, but he was raised bilingual, speaking English, and a Pfalzisch German language, as he grew up in largely German community in rural eastern Washington.


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11 Jun 2017, 2:37 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The US doesn't have the real Sharia issues like Europe does and hopefully we're not stupid enough to ever allow it to happen so I don't really see why 'banning' Sharia law is so controversial. These same people crying about this probably want to ban the 10 Commandments, prayer in school, and tax churches; I think a lot of people that pose as anti-religious are more simply anti-Christian moreso than anything else. The US constitution is the supreme law of the land, religious law has no place in this country.


Banning Sharia law in America amounts to banning cohabitation with swamp monsters. That is, there's no need to enforce such a law as that's never going to happen.


So what does it matter then?


Because it demonizes a segment of our population; namely, Muslim Americans. The whole point of this campaign is based on prejudice and fear of Americans of the Islamic faith. It's no different than laws forbidding interracial marriage in the Jim Crow south, or how speaking German was forbidden in certain parts of the country during WWI. Any law directed at a whole group of people based on their religion, language, or ethnicity is completely adverse to the ideals this country was based on.


Ugh what? No, it's not like Jim Crow at all. Are you actually arguing for the use of Sharia law for 'tolerance'? I don't think there is anything wrong with saying Islamic extremism should not be welcomed in America. How does this effect the rights of Muslims unless you're arguing that Sharia law should be used in the US?


I think you know I was referring to laws directed at people, specifically Muslim Americans, and not Sharia law. If it wasn't about Sharia law, it would have been something else, such as that idiot law to keep Muslim Mosques from being built anywhere near the Twin Towers.


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11 Jun 2017, 11:28 pm

Jacoby wrote:
It's a similar argument used against making English the official language here in the US. Linguistic separatism I think is a real worry, US needs to do more to ensure a harmonious society with assimilation and actually protect the basic tenets of culture.


We have similar debates in Australia. The bottom line is the term "culture" seems to be interpreted in a subjective way.



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12 Jun 2017, 6:25 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Ugh what? No, it's not like Jim Crow at all. Are you actually arguing for the use of Sharia law for 'tolerance'? I don't think there is anything wrong with saying Islamic extremism should not be welcomed in America. How does this effect the rights of Muslims unless you're arguing that Sharia law should be used in the US?


The Article wrote:
...The organization said this week it was canceling an event in Arkansas “when we became aware that the organizer is associated with white supremacist groups.”...


Most people don't want Shariah law, but, with events like this, you're likely to attract the deplorables.

I'm sure that Shariah law would never pass constitutional muster--the courts would shoot it down.



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12 Jun 2017, 7:02 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The US doesn't have the real Sharia issues like Europe does and hopefully we're not stupid enough to ever allow it to happen so I don't really see why 'banning' Sharia law is so controversial. These same people crying about this probably want to ban the 10 Commandments, prayer in school, and tax churches; I think a lot of people that pose as anti-religious are more simply anti-Christian moreso than anything else. The US constitution is the supreme law of the land, religious law has no place in this country.


Banning Sharia law in America amounts to banning cohabitation with swamp monsters. That is, there's no need to enforce such a law as that's never going to happen.


A really silly comparison, if only because (unlike swamp monsters) Sharia Law actually exists, and it does so in parts of the world where you would not expect it to, and in ways you wouldn't recognise. For example, did you know (and I was shocked to find this out myself) in some parts of England - ENGLAND! - there are what could be termed 'alcohol patrols' by young muslim men at night, who go out and harass ordinary, non-muslim people for not abiding by the teachings of Islam?

People need to wake the hell up, before it's too late.