Trump voters are throwing another tantrum.

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06 Aug 2017, 4:18 pm


When are Trump voters going to grow up and take responsibility for their own lives? Why do they always have to blame black people? Pathetic.


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06 Aug 2017, 9:15 pm

If the source is correct and the majority of Trump supporters believe that white Americans are unfairly discriminated against compared to minorities then this getting closer to explain the unthinkable US election result

In Australia a similar sentiment bubbles to the surface when we have had left wing labor governments and the opposition conservatives pull their major weapon which is aborigines get too much financial support, refugees are taking advantage of weak borders and there are too many Asians entering our country.



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06 Aug 2017, 10:04 pm

His argument is "two wrongs make a right".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_wrongs_make_a_right

Sure, whites are discriminated in college admission, but it's OK because blacks are discriminated by police.

See, two wrongs make a right.



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06 Aug 2017, 10:05 pm

On the issue of civil rights and government programs, a WP member (who shall go unnamed) responded in a post to me that when you give something to someone, you take something away from someone else. And yes, he's a fanatical Trump voter.


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06 Aug 2017, 10:07 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
His argument is "two wrongs make a right".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_wrongs_make_a_right

Sure, whites are discriminated in college admission, but it's OK because blacks are discriminated by police.

See, two wrongs make a right.


Whites by far outnumber blacks on college campuses. Whites are not discriminated against.


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06 Aug 2017, 10:13 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
His argument is "two wrongs make a right".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_wrongs_make_a_right

Sure, whites are discriminated in college admission, but it's OK because blacks are discriminated by police.

See, two wrongs make a right.


Whites by far outnumber blacks on college campuses. Whites are not discriminated against.

Well .. it's common practice for US colleges to discriminate against Asians mostly and whites based on race ?

The discrimination is so severe for Asians that they're politicized about it.

"May 2015 a coalition of 64 Asian-American groups went public with their claim of bias at Harvard"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/05/politics/ ... index.html



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06 Aug 2017, 10:35 pm

Conservative: Why do women and minorities get affirmative action? It's not faaaaaaair!
Me: Earth's natural resources are controlled by the 1%. That isn't fair either.
Conservative: Get a life you whiney crybaby! When will liberals learn? You can never get anything by whining! You have to work for it like a goddamn MAN!


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06 Aug 2017, 10:43 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
His argument is "two wrongs make a right".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_wrongs_make_a_right

Sure, whites are discriminated in college admission, but it's OK because blacks are discriminated by police.

See, two wrongs make a right.


Whites by far outnumber blacks on college campuses. Whites are not discriminated against.

Well .. it's common practice for US colleges to discriminate against Asians mostly and whites based on race ?

The discrimination is so severe for Asians that they're politicized about it.

"May 2015 a coalition of 64 Asian-American groups went public with their claim of bias at Harvard"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/05/politics/ ... index.html


I thought we were talking about whites, not Asians.


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06 Aug 2017, 10:47 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
His argument is "two wrongs make a right".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_wrongs_make_a_right

Sure, whites are discriminated in college admission, but it's OK because blacks are discriminated by police.

See, two wrongs make a right.


Whites by far outnumber blacks on college campuses. Whites are not discriminated against.

Well .. it's common practice for US colleges to discriminate against Asians mostly and whites based on race ?

The discrimination is so severe for Asians that they're politicized about it.

"May 2015 a coalition of 64 Asian-American groups went public with their claim of bias at Harvard"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/05/politics/ ... index.html


I thought we were talking about whites, not Asians.

We're talking about college race-based affirmative action policies that Trump is talking about ending.



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06 Aug 2017, 11:54 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
His argument is "two wrongs make a right".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_wrongs_make_a_right

Sure, whites are discriminated in college admission, but it's OK because blacks are discriminated by police.

See, two wrongs make a right.


Whites by far outnumber blacks on college campuses. Whites are not discriminated against.

Well .. it's common practice for US colleges to discriminate against Asians mostly and whites based on race ?

The discrimination is so severe for Asians that they're politicized about it.

"May 2015 a coalition of 64 Asian-American groups went public with their claim of bias at Harvard"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/05/politics/ ... index.html


I thought we were talking about whites, not Asians.

We're talking about college race-based affirmative action policies that Trump is talking about ending.


Ending race based affirmative action for the sake of Trump's redneck and Alt Right supporters who think letting blacks attend college somehow detracts from them. Contrary to what the populist right thinks, extending rights and privileges to groups formerly oppressed doesn't take from those who already have. And if working class whites have been losing ground, it's not because of blacks, but because of the corporate elite who play the market to enrich themselves while leaving everyone else eating sh*t.


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07 Aug 2017, 12:02 am

Affirmative action is discrimination. You may believe that it is justifiable descrimination but it is discrimination.

It often is a zero sum game. There are exceptions such as arguably hiring a black to market to blacks. There are a certain amount of jobs, if you give it to one person based on race or sex you are often taking it away from another more qualified person in order to make up for jobs taken away from more deserving people due to past, current, and future discrimination.

In most cases affirmitive action has not taken jobs away from Trump voters because Trump voters have higher then average salaries. However in the states that flipped the election there are limited number of blue coller jobs.


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07 Aug 2017, 1:01 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Affirmative action is discrimination. You may believe that it is justifiable descrimination but it is discrimination.

It often is a zero sum game. There are exceptions such as arguably hiring a black to market to blacks. There are a certain amount of jobs, if you give it to one person based on race or sex you are often taking it away from another more qualified person in order to make up for jobs taken away from more deserving people due to past, current, and future discrimination.

In most cases affirmitive action has not taken jobs away from Trump voters because Trump voters have higher then average salaries. However in the states that flipped the election there are limited number of blue coller jobs.


I'm sure there has to have been more than a few cases where the black applicant was the most qualified, but would have been denied employment were it not for Affirmative Action.


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07 Aug 2017, 1:48 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Affirmative action is discrimination. You may believe that it is justifiable descrimination but it is discrimination.

It often is a zero sum game. There are exceptions such as arguably hiring a black to market to blacks. There are a certain amount of jobs, if you give it to one person based on race or sex you are often taking it away from another more qualified person in order to make up for jobs taken away from more deserving people due to past, current, and future discrimination.

In most cases affirmitive action has not taken jobs away from Trump voters because Trump voters have higher then average salaries. However in the states that flipped the election there are limited number of blue coller jobs.


I'm sure there has to have been more than a few cases where the black applicant was the most qualified, but would have been denied employment were it not for Affirmative Action.


True but employment bias is a different matter. I think race based quotas for colleges should be replaced by more scholarships for lower SES kids who show academic excellence but who don't have the finances to continue to higher education. I don't think affirmative action should be used to let an average black kid get into college ahead of a slightly above average white kid.



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07 Aug 2017, 1:49 am

It appears that Democrat sources have backed away from Black Lives Matter, anti-cop, and anti-white rhetoric.

I suspect, suffering staggering defeats on every level, they realize that anti-white rhetoric in a white majority country was a bad idea.

So, they won't condemn this action by Trump, as previously we would see countless articles condemning this as "racism".



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07 Aug 2017, 1:59 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
Well .. it's common practice for US colleges to discriminate against Asians mostly and whites based on race ?

The discrimination is so severe for Asians that they're politicized about it.

"May 2015 a coalition of 64 Asian-American groups went public with their claim of bias at Harvard"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/05/politics/ ... index.html


I'm in the unique position of knowing one of the policy makers behind this move. Back in the 1980s Ivy league Universities in the US faced having their entire medical faculties completely filled by east and south Asian students. Using the smokescreen of "diversity" interviews were introduced which ostensibly checked/screened the sincerity of the applicant's interest in health work. Its purpose was to arbitrarily remove Asian applicants from the pool so that more white students could get into medicine. One of the creators of this policy came to Australia to advise our own universities on using this method which was implemented in medical schools in Australia in the 1990s.

The method is sneaky because it does not involve racial profiling but works on the basis that Asian students are not really empathetic toward the sick but are only interested in making money and having the status of being a doctor.

If not for this rather clever piece of trickery within 50 years every doctor in Australia would be Asian



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07 Aug 2017, 2:06 am

Anti-Trump losers have been throwing one big tantrum since election day, they are determined at destroying this country. Will Trump be the last guy or is this the beginning of the end? When does the ballot box stop being an option?