thugs in uniform at it again, this time in Utah

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01 Sep 2017, 11:31 pm

That thing, which pretty much was an assault and battery of the nurse, is so wrong on so many levels.
Way back in 1980s I went to LPN school, job turned out to be too stressful for me, but it was definitely an educational experience and gave a lot of understanding of that side of the hospital experience.


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02 Sep 2017, 12:12 am

thug cop was rewarded rather than punished. watch everybody pile onto this nurse now, a convenient scapegoat.



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02 Sep 2017, 12:18 am

I'm not sure that even the entire internet is enough bandwidth for posting the complete answer, but what is wrong with people these days?????????????
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02 Sep 2017, 12:32 am

kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
I'm not sure that even the entire internet is enough bandwidth for posting the complete answer, but what is wrong with people these days?????????????
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the world is getting smaller and people are too connected (and distracted) for their own good.







maybe that's part of it.


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02 Sep 2017, 1:23 am

the PTB have arranged things to where the 99% are stressed out, and lab experiments with rats administered unpredictable electric shocks, have demonstrated that treatment elicits bullyboy behavior in said rats who, absent a way to fight back at the humans, will start picking on each other, especially the weak among them. this is, I believe, what is happening in our amuuurican culture now.



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02 Sep 2017, 1:31 am

auntblabby wrote:
thug cop was rewarded rather than punished. watch everybody pile onto this nurse now, a convenient scapegoat.


I don't understand. It sounds like he's in trouble to me. Plus she can sue him.



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02 Sep 2017, 1:42 am

EzraS wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
thug cop was rewarded rather than punished. watch everybody pile onto this nurse now, a convenient scapegoat.


I don't understand. It sounds like he's in trouble to me. Plus she can sue him.

the chief basically gave him a paid time off. a reward, not a punishment.



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02 Sep 2017, 10:04 am

They have to go through the steps of investigating the incident and during that time he'll be on paid leave. It's not a reward but part of the due process for investigations of wrongdoing.


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03 Sep 2017, 2:35 am

auntblabby wrote:
EzraS wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
thug cop was rewarded rather than punished. watch everybody pile onto this nurse now, a convenient scapegoat.


I don't understand. It sounds like he's in trouble to me. Plus she can sue him.

the chief basically gave him a paid time off. a reward, not a punishment.


Ah so. I'm sure he's not crying over that.



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03 Sep 2017, 2:39 am

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They have to go through the steps of investigating the incident and during that time he'll be on paid leave. It's not a reward but part of the due process for investigations of wrongdoing.


I wonder how long he's worked as a cop. Probably way too long to make a blunder like that. They don't need idiots like that. I wonder if she'll sue them.



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03 Sep 2017, 2:51 am

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At least he didn't shoot her. Any encounter with a cop that you survive, is a good one.


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03 Sep 2017, 2:58 am

I am angry that she let herself get deterred from suing.



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03 Sep 2017, 3:07 am

EzraS wrote:
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They have to go through the steps of investigating the incident and during that time he'll be on paid leave. It's not a reward but part of the due process for investigations of wrongdoing.


I wonder how long he's worked as a cop. Probably way too long to make a blunder like that. They don't need idiots like that. I wonder if she'll sue them.


The thing about cops is that they are in a public trust position and this ugly little incident (and others like) it undermine that trust. This can't go unanswered, but I still believe the cop (or anyone else) deserves a fair hearing before the firing squad is assembled.


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03 Sep 2017, 3:00 pm

auntblabby wrote:
I am angry that she let herself get deterred from suing.

Who says she DID? Your very own article, says:

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Wubbels, who was not criminally charged, played the footage at a news conference Thursday with her attorney. They called on police to rethink their treatment of hospital workers and said they had not ruled out legal action.

.....and, again, almost at the very end:

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For now, Wubbels is not taking any legal action against police. But she's not ruling it out.
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03 Sep 2017, 3:09 pm

The thing that *I* don't understand, is THIS:

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It all started when a suspect speeding away from police in a pickup truck on a local highway smashed head-on into a truck driver, as local media reported. Medics sedated the truck driver, who was severely burned, and took him to the University of Utah Hospital. He arrived in a comatose state, according to the Deseret News. The suspect died in the crash.

A neighboring police department sent Payne, a trained police phlebotomist, to collect blood from the patient and check for illicit substances, as the Tribune reported. The goal was reportedly to protect the trucker, who was not suspected of a crime. His lieutenant ordered him to arrest Wubbels if she refused to let him draw a sample, according to the Tribune.

I thought the guy they wanted the blood, from, was the criminal----but, he DIED, at-the-scene.

Also, how would drawing his blood, protect the trucker? The only think I can figure, is that if they had found "illicit substances", they could argue that he shouldn't've been driving----and, if he wasn't driving, the criminal wouldn't've run-into him; but, then, IMO, one could argue the OPPOSITE, as well..... If the criminal hadn't done whatever he did, that made him a criminal, and tried to evade arrest, he wouldn't've been on the road, EITHER; so..... I dunno.....





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