Two mass shooting incidents

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New Mexico library shooting kills at least 2, wounds 4

Shooter kills one, wounds 7 at Tennessee church

Jeeze!

Intresting review about the church...

Sudanese immigrant arrested, FBI to launch civil rights investigation

16-year-old faces murder charges in New Mexico library shooting

First thing I wonder is whether psychiatric medication was being taken by the shooter.
I think I've heard multiple times that it eventually comes out most of this kind of shooter were on psych meds or recently had been.

Suspect Charged With Murder in Mass Shooting at Tennessee Church

For those that don't pay for Washington Post, a local station for the New Mexico shooting.

16-year-old charged in Clovis library shooting

Another shooting in the US. Big surprise.

that has to be a factor,
Pastor, family: Suspected Clovis shooter was overcoming drug addiction, abusive background
http://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/clovis-shooter-identified-nathaniel-jouett/4589628/

http://heavy.com/news/2017/08/nathaniel-jouett-clovis-library-shooting-suspect/

Police initially said the suspect was African-American. Later, police identified him as Sudanese with legal US residency.

Police jumping to conclusions as usual...

I dated a guy from South Africa, who is white and legally recognized as African American. Sudan is in Africa, so technically not wrong and yes, I understand some identify as Arab.

What it mean't is that they booked and processed him and then rushed to the media tripping over themselves that they have the suspect in custody but bungled the suspect's background. Quite clearly they have a problem with profiling even when they have the person in custody and could have questioned him first before splashing b****it on the media.

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Hint, his race was on his identification.

In America, every black person is commonly called "African American".

It's equivalent to saying, "black", which is considered racist.

I think that's what Cyberdad meant.

Your garden variety Black American person, whose ancestors were freed by Lincoln, and whose ancestors may have been in what is now the USA longer than a DAR person's (since colonial times) are now sometimes called "African American" instead of "Black", or "Negro" (or that other word that sounds like "Negro").

Trouble is that "African American" is a confusing term because it implies that you are a recent immigrant from the continent of Africa. Dave Mathews is a WASP White dude who was born in Africa. So technically he is "African American" in that sense.

A recent immigrant from a Black country in Africa (like the Congo) who is dark skinned would look like a garden variety American Black, so an American cop might mistake them for being "African American" in that sense, when in fact they are really "African American" in the OTHER sense (the born in Africa sense, and not in the "of long time Black American stock" sense).

Are you confused enough yet?

A recent immigrant from the Sudan? Well southern Sudanese tend to be Black in both complexion and in features like folks from the COngo, or other regions, were the enslaved ancestors of American Blacks were taken from. So if he came from the southern Sudan he might an "African American"(ie recent immigrant) who could be mistaken for an "African American" (garden variety American black person).

But if he came from the northern parts of Sudan he would probably be Arab looking, and not Black sub-Saharan African looking. So he would be "African American" in the "born in Africa" sense, but would classified as "White" (because brown middle eastern arabs are classed as Caucasian on the census forms) by the American government. But he would probably NOT be classified as "White" by most native born European descent White Americans.

...When John Kerry ran for President, his wife stepped in doo-doo this way. She is an immigrant to the US. She came from Mozambique. Mozambique was a Portugese colony, during the period of Europe taking almost all of Africa. Her parents were ethnically Portugese. She at least once referred to herself as African-American, getting some for that.
She is correct, of course, as regards where she came from as an immigrant to America. As far as " African-American " meaning " black ", an ethnically Sub-Saharan person goes, she of course is not.