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trickle down econonics- a fairy tale, or what?
trickle down benefits the 99% :idea: 9%  9%  [ 3 ]
trickle down benefits only the 1% :x 82%  82%  [ 28 ]
i'm not sure :shrug: 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
where's my ice cream? :chef: 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
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02 Jan 2018, 3:18 pm

You're welcome, wannabe-professor windbag.



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02 Jan 2018, 3:40 pm

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You're welcome, wannabe-professor windbag.

Funny thing: I've been called 'professor' since I was 12, I'm pretty used to it by now, and I do view it as a badge of honor.

Outside of the normal flow of debate I did mention one thing: A movie called Thank You for Smoking, whether you read that or not, not sure, but I seriously recommend watching it. I can guarantee you'll be thoroughly entertained. That's on a personal level I'm saying it, not as a debater with any type of cause at this point. It's all about language, debate, and public releations and there are some hilarious arguments in there, but also some tried an true techniques. Look it up sometime. If you know who William F. Buckley is (probably the most talented conservative writer of the last half century if you don't), it was based on a book written by his son (who's non-political but also a very good writer).



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02 Jan 2018, 3:42 pm

:lol: Just heard Sarah Huckabee's first address of the new year and she opened up by talking about how so many American's are getting raises to their wages from the corporate tax breaks that were just handed out.. uuuh, really? Somehow I doubt that IF any major corporations are going to increase wages with their tax breaks that they did it instantaneously. The whole soundbite sounds like complete and utter BS saying the tax cut is working exactly as Trump intended.. corporations increasing wages. :lol: I VERY highly doubt it.


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02 Jan 2018, 3:47 pm

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:lol: Just heard Sarah Huckabee's first address of the new year and she opened up by talking about how so many American's are getting raises to their wages from the corporate tax breaks that were just handed out.. uuuh, really? Somehow I doubt that IF any major corporations are going to increase wages with their tax breaks that they did it instantaneously. The whole soundbite sounds like complete and utter BS saying the tax cut is working exactly as Trump intended.. corporations increasing wages. :lol: I VERY highly doubt it.

AT&T, Well's Fargo, and Boeing are giving bonuses they claim is due to the tax cut. Whether it's truly due to the tax cut or as a political assist to a candidate they supported in the general election is another question all together.



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02 Jan 2018, 3:54 pm

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goldfish21 wrote:
:lol: Just heard Sarah Huckabee's first address of the new year and she opened up by talking about how so many American's are getting raises to their wages from the corporate tax breaks that were just handed out.. uuuh, really? Somehow I doubt that IF any major corporations are going to increase wages with their tax breaks that they did it instantaneously. The whole soundbite sounds like complete and utter BS saying the tax cut is working exactly as Trump intended.. corporations increasing wages. :lol: I VERY highly doubt it.

AT&T, Well's Fargo, and Boeing are giving bonuses they claim is due to the tax cut. Whether it's truly due to the tax cut or as a political assist to a candidate they supported in the general election is another question all together.


Interesting. Maybe it's for the PR so they don't look like as*holes if they just keep the money for themselves?

I expect that ~80% will greedily enrich their boards & top shareholders while maybe 20% will spread the wealth around a little.


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02 Jan 2018, 5:50 pm

Aristophanes wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
:lol: Just heard Sarah Huckabee's first address of the new year and she opened up by talking about how so many American's are getting raises to their wages from the corporate tax breaks that were just handed out.. uuuh, really? Somehow I doubt that IF any major corporations are going to increase wages with their tax breaks that they did it instantaneously. The whole soundbite sounds like complete and utter BS saying the tax cut is working exactly as Trump intended.. corporations increasing wages. :lol: I VERY highly doubt it.

AT&T, Well's Fargo, and Boeing are giving bonuses they claim is due to the tax cut. Whether it's truly due to the tax cut or as a political assist to a candidate they supported in the general election is another question all together.


AT&T was planning to give out a bonus months ago ... before the tax cuts were announced.


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02 Jan 2018, 6:16 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
:lol: Just heard Sarah Huckabee's first address of the new year and she opened up by talking about how so many American's are getting raises to their wages from the corporate tax breaks that were just handed out.. uuuh, really? Somehow I doubt that IF any major corporations are going to increase wages with their tax breaks that they did it instantaneously. The whole soundbite sounds like complete and utter BS saying the tax cut is working exactly as Trump intended.. corporations increasing wages. :lol: I VERY highly doubt it.

AT&T, Well's Fargo, and Boeing are giving bonuses they claim is due to the tax cut. Whether it's truly due to the tax cut or as a political assist to a candidate they supported in the general election is another question all together.


AT&T was planning to give out a bonus months ago ... before the tax cuts were announced.

As I said, their purported reasons for said bonuses may be dubious, but all three companies did give bonuses. Also of note, a bonus is a one time payout, the corporate tax cut is permanent-- if they truly wanted to 'trickle down' the benefits of the corporate tax cut those would be raises, not mere bonuses.



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02 Jan 2018, 6:30 pm

Aristophanes wrote:
As I said, their purported reasons for said bonuses may be dubious, but all three companies did give bonuses. Also of note, a bonus is a one time payout, the corporate tax cut is permanent-- if they truly wanted to 'trickle down' the benefits of the corporate tax cut those would be raises, not mere bonuses.


"You want a permanent bonus? Here's an idea! Grow a pair and stop being a crybaby! Is that too much to ask?"
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02 Jan 2018, 8:46 pm

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EzraS wrote:
You're welcome, wannabe-professor windbag.

Funny thing: I've been called 'professor' since I was 12, I'm pretty used to it by now, and I do view it as a badge of honor.


So you've been recognized as pretentious since childhood and equate it as a good thing.

goldfish21 wrote:
:lol: Just heard Sarah Huckabee's first address of the new year and she opened up by talking about how so many American's are getting raises to their wages from the corporate tax breaks that were just handed out.. uuuh, really? Somehow I doubt that IF any major corporations are going to increase wages with their tax breaks that they did it instantaneously. The whole soundbite sounds like complete and utter BS saying the tax cut is working exactly as Trump intended.. corporations increasing wages. :lol: I VERY highly doubt it.


My aunt works for a big corp and was told everyone is getting a raise. So that's one corp at least.



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03 Jan 2018, 1:59 pm

EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
You're welcome, wannabe-professor windbag.

Funny thing: I've been called 'professor' since I was 12, I'm pretty used to it by now, and I do view it as a badge of honor.


So you've been recognized as pretentious since childhood and equate it as a good thing.

Grade school ad hominem. Your age is showing again.



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03 Jan 2018, 2:16 pm

Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
You're welcome, wannabe-professor windbag.

Funny thing: I've been called 'professor' since I was 12, I'm pretty used to it by now, and I do view it as a badge of honor.


So you've been recognized as pretentious since childhood and equate it as a good thing.

Grade school ad hominem. Your age is showing again.


You're a poo poo head with cooties.



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03 Jan 2018, 2:16 pm

EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
EzraS wrote:
You're welcome, wannabe-professor windbag.

Funny thing: I've been called 'professor' since I was 12, I'm pretty used to it by now, and I do view it as a badge of honor.


So you've been recognized as pretentious since childhood and equate it as a good thing.

Grade school ad hominem. Your age is showing again.


Poo poo head.

Fart face!



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03 Jan 2018, 2:18 pm

Reported.



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03 Jan 2018, 2:21 pm

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Reported.

Reported * 2, cause I told my mom on you too. And when my mom calls your mom, you're gonna be in real trouble!! !

edit: In all seriousness though, let's let them continue their debate. As much as I enjoy this, it's turning into a game thread.



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03 Jan 2018, 2:27 pm

Hey WP is running smoothly now, so do another even more extensive search of all my posts I didn't do right and then write more long winded crap about them. But best start it in a new thread. Toodles.