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07 Jan 2018, 2:11 am


Protip: The government does a lot of awful things, but filtering water is not one of them.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Raw_water

I've never liked this whole idea that natural always equals good. Raw water is natural, but so is tetrodotoxin. Nature is full of life, but it's also full of death. You won't survive in nature unless you know what is and isn't deadly.


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07 Jan 2018, 3:06 am

Mountain water above human habitation is usually safe to drink, such as in wilderness areas.

Cholera and all those other nasty bugs are usually found where there are people who pollute the water with all manner of things I prefer not to think too deeply about...


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07 Jan 2018, 3:17 am

ITS


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08 Jan 2018, 4:19 pm

envirozentinel wrote:
Mountain water above human habitation is usually safe to drink, such as in wilderness areas.

Basically the further downstream from a water source the more human effluent enters the system. By the time most major rivers reach the ocean they are tainted with all types of nasties...chemical and biological. People play Russian roulette choosing to swim at the beach.

Unfortunately corrupt officials in many countries (including Australia) allow mining close to water sources and so even pristine aquifers aren't immune from heavy metals or sediment

Our piped water travels in rusting pipes and dissolving clay containing heavy metals so filtering is recommended although I'm lazy and just drink straight out of a tap to access the fluoride to help with dental health



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08 Jan 2018, 6:07 pm

You know, in places down south like Georgia, they've naturally got brain eating amoebas in their lakes.


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08 Jan 2018, 6:17 pm

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Mountain water above human habitation is usually safe to drink, such as in wilderness areas.


Giardia US Forest Service



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08 Jan 2018, 6:19 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
You know, in places down south like Georgia, they've naturally got brain eating amoebas in their lakes.

^^ That's Naegleria fowleri, and a nasty beast it is. And it's not just in stagnant ponds and lakes - there have been deaths associated with people using neti pots (sinus flushing) with tap water straight from the faucet, in the US South (Louisiana, 2011).

You can drink the little monsters, but for the love of Mike don't get them in your nose. (edit in: and I don't really recommend drinking them either. Dysphagia is not our friend in Aspie world. Way too risky.)

Article: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-it-safe ... -neti-pot/

(Edit in: more recent article subbed.)


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08 Jan 2018, 6:28 pm

First its filtration. Then its fluoridation. Its ALL a commie plot....to attack us all....via our precious bodily fluids!




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08 Jan 2018, 6:44 pm

I think there comes a time when dear old Darwin and Malthus won't be denied their due.

If rich, vapid doofi want to kill themselves off with this nonsense, it'll be a shame...but not as much of a shame as those who die this way because they cannot access clean, safe water.

I'll save my sympathy for those who suffer through no fault of their own, rather than squandering it on those who choose their own pain through stupid trendiness.


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09 Jan 2018, 2:31 pm

Well, maby some people like giardia, naglaria, parasites, worms and various bacteria that make your pants brown? Also chemicals (pollution) and pesticides is a factor you have to consider before drinking.

I did an extensive writeup on water purification earlier:
http://tonfiskpaburk.blogspot.se/2016/11/getting-drinkable-water-bushcraft.html

envirozentinel wrote:
Mountain water above human habitation is usually safe to drink, such as in wilderness areas.

Cholera and all those other nasty bugs are usually found where there are people who pollute the water with all manner of things I prefer not to think too deeply about...


It CAN be safe to drink, but you should always check upstream before. A "little" chemical pollution wont kill you but i would never gather water from a ditch nearby a farm. Giardia and similar ailments aren't extremely lethal, but instead you will dehydrate from diarrhoea and if you're out in the wild, you're done for. That is why you boil water or run it through a filter.

A sawyer mini costs $30 here in Sweden, probably cheaper elsewhere. Get one and keep it on your person (they freeze = they break). And even a monkey can be trained to boil water.


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09 Jan 2018, 2:50 pm

MissChess wrote:
I think there comes a time when dear old Darwin and Malthus won't be denied their due.

If rich, vapid doofi want to kill themselves off with this nonsense, it'll be a shame...but not as much of a shame as those who die this way because they cannot access clean, safe water.

I'll save my sympathy for those who suffer through no fault of their own, rather than squandering it on those who choose their own pain through stupid trendiness.


Too far.

These people may believe crazy things, but they still have families. Some of them even have kids.

Let's not lose our respect for human life.


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09 Jan 2018, 3:01 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
MissChess wrote:
I think there comes a time when dear old Darwin and Malthus won't be denied their due.

If rich, vapid doofi want to kill themselves off with this nonsense, it'll be a shame...but not as much of a shame as those who die this way because they cannot access clean, safe water.

I'll save my sympathy for those who suffer through no fault of their own, rather than squandering it on those who choose their own pain through stupid trendiness.


Too far.

These people may believe crazy things, but they still have families. Some of them even have kids.

Let's not lose our respect for human life.

As I said, it'll be a shame. The fact remains, if people who have access to safe, clean water choose idiotic trends in defiance of scientific fact, they will get less sympathy from me than those who don't have access to clean water and must suffer for that lack.

Authority and responsibility are two sides of the same thing. People living in areas where they cannot access clean water do not have control or ownership of their situation, and are therefore not responsible for the suffering they endure as a result. People living in areas where clean water is cheap and readily available, who disregard scientific consensus and make foolish choices as a result, cannot duck the responsibility for their choice.


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