Thousands of unborn children damaged by alcohol-Autism/ADHD,

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23 Jan 2008, 8:43 pm

this could be the reason why autism exists, i know my mom(which died when i was 4) was a alcoholic.

thousands of unborn children damaged by alcohol

Thousands of unborn children in Kent could be suffering physical or mental problems as a result of their mothers drinking while pregnant.

The charity said the vast majority of these either go undiagnosed or are misdiagnosed as forms of autism or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).

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23 Jan 2008, 9:16 pm

My mother didn't drink at all.



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23 Jan 2008, 10:33 pm

FAS (fetal alcohol syndrome) is a distinct condition and not to be confused with autism. There are some traits that each share, especially with executive dysfunction, but that's as far as it goes.

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The charity said the vast majority of these either go undiagnosed or are misdiagnosed as forms of autism or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).


FAS children may get grouped with other developmentally delayed children, but that doesn't mean that alcohol is the "reason why autism exists". FAS has only been recognized in the 20th century, before that it was seen as a genetic disorder, as in the result of degenerates breeding.

I don't know what the difference between the US and the UK, but I've read that Britain has a very intense problem with alcohol abuse.



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24 Jan 2008, 12:20 am

well, jaydog, so far, autism is caused by drinking, stress, exposure to various substances, and whatever is down-forum that I haven't reached yet.

Are you attempting to engage in conversation, or just trolling?


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24 Jan 2008, 12:24 am

DeaconBlues, i'm just doing research and theres much more to autism then then what you mentioned. while this is a news and currents events forum on a asperger/autism forum as well. if you dont like my posting then don't view my posts...



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24 Jan 2008, 1:06 am

Jaydog, I appreciate your posts as well as all research and info. on autism. Your post reminded me of this study below. They found that mothers using cocaine while pregnant have a 1 in 9 chance of having autistic children. It's pretty clear based on the scientific evidence that environmental factors are involved.

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J Natl Med Assoc. 1992 Apr;84(4):315-9.Links
Autism and developmental abnormalities in children with perinatal cocaine exposure.
Davis E, Fennoy I, Laraque D, Kanem N, Brown G, Mitchell J.

Department of Child/Adolescent Psychiatry, Harlem Hospital, New York, New York 10037.

Cocaine in all forms is the number one illicit drug of choice among pregnant women. Records of 70 children with cocaine exposure in utero who were referred for developmental evaluation at a large inner-city hospital were reviewed in an effort to determine whether a specific pattern of abnormalities could be discerned...Significant neurodevelopmental abnormalities were observed, including language delay in 94% of the children and an extremely high frequency of autism (11.4%). The high rate of autistic disorders not known to occur in children exposed to alcohol or opiates alone suggests specific cocaine effects.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1380564



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24 Jan 2008, 12:59 pm

Alcohol by itself doesn't cause autism, but one component of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome or Fetal Alcohol Effect is ADD. Another, as noted above, is problems with executive function. I have raised two daughters, one with autism plus, and one with fetal alcohol effect. Frankly, raising the child with autism was easier.



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24 Jan 2008, 2:51 pm

Why is it so impossible that it's not just simply freakin' genetics?

Why MUST there be someone to blame it on?


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24 Jan 2008, 8:40 pm

Children with FAS (Fetal Alcohol Syndrome) and FAE (Fetal Alcohol Effect) demonstrate symptoms that can appear to be the opposite of Autism/Asperger's. Very often, these children are overly social, especially with strangers. Michael Dorris, in his book, The Broken Cord, said that his adopted son and many others with the condition have "literally never met a stranger." They seem chatty and talk a lot, but don't know what they are talking about.



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20 Jan 2018, 12:00 pm

My biological mother was supposedly severely autistic and didn't know how to bring up a child and I suspect she was trying to abandon me. I don't think there were Safe Haven laws back then. She apparently met my biological father in a bar but the social worker took her word for it when she said she didn't drink. I was practically a poster child for FASD but never got proper help for it because all my problems were blamed on the autism. I think it's possible I just have both autism and FASD.


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20 Jan 2018, 4:57 pm

fabshelly wrote:
Why is it so impossible that it's not just simply freakin' genetics?

Why MUST there be someone to blame it on?


I agree, genetics is still the best culprit.


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20 Jan 2018, 6:02 pm

Scientific research (published some 2-3 yrs after the OP posted this) suggests "no"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20371506
Our findings do not support that a low prenatal alcohol exposure increases the risk of ASD or infantile autism. The lower risk for women who binge drank once during pregnancy is most likely non-causal.



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20 Jan 2018, 6:15 pm

My mom will occasionally have a glass of wine or hard cider, but she is by no stretch of the imagination an alcoholic (and neither is my dad, for that matter). I haven't asked, but I have every reason to believe she didn't have any alcohol while she was pregnant with me. I can say my parents do both have autistic traits, although not enough or to enough of an extent for either of them to be autistic themselves, but put together, the traits would be enough to meet the diagnostic criteria for autism. In my case, I'd say there's more evidence that it's due to genetics.


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