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13 Feb 2018, 5:35 pm

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For all of Trump's talk of illegal aliens stealing American jobs, what his lower class supporters refuse to understand is that most of these jobs have been lost to automation and outsourcing overseas.

they ain't seen nothin' yet! things will get much worse for us.



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13 Feb 2018, 5:45 pm

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For all of Trump's talk of illegal aliens stealing American jobs, what his lower class supporters refuse to understand is that most of these jobs have been lost to automation and outsourcing overseas.

they ain't seen nothin' yet! things will get much worse for us.


I fear you're right. :(


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13 Feb 2018, 5:49 pm

the only thing left us working class can do is STICK TOGETHER :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:



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13 Feb 2018, 6:02 pm

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the only thing left us working class can do is STICK TOGETHER :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


This can only happen if the working class manages to look past racism, sexism, organised religion, patriotism, and other things which are divisive.


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13 Feb 2018, 6:10 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
the only thing left us working class can do is STICK TOGETHER :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


This can only happen if the working class manages to look past racism, sexism, organised religion, patriotism, and other things which are divisive.

ok, the last time a hundred years ago and change, that the working class stood up and organized against the tyrants, what caused them to be able to look past racism etc. and work together? how do we get there again?



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13 Feb 2018, 6:37 pm

1. Refuse to be intimidated by trolls for Trump, their day will pass, and things will slowly recover.
2. Look at the big picture, the long haul.
3. This too will pass
4. There are many informed, polite, concerned USA citizens who truly care about the issues presenting now. They are more numerous than it often appears from social media. There is hope.
5. There is always hope.
6. Demagogues come and go, they don't last.
7. There are many of us in other countries who stand with you and beside you. The whole world is watching, and hopefully, ultimately the lessons of electing a demagogue will be learned, so some good will come of this ultimately.
8. Every dog has its day. Those days are numbered, and new dogs have their day.
9. Change is inevitable.



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13 Feb 2018, 6:51 pm

re "change is inevitable" - let us hope America has not already become as a vending machine. ;) [dark humor there ;) ]



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13 Feb 2018, 8:24 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
the only thing left us working class can do is STICK TOGETHER :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


This can only happen if the working class manages to look past racism, sexism, organised religion, patriotism, and other things which are divisive.


If working people can look past that list of divisive issues and instead focus on their economic interests, they'd be unstoppable.


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13 Feb 2018, 8:50 pm

It's important for us to never give up our struggle to make our species better.

Fact: The Pirahã people of the Amazon rainforest have a near-perfect society. There are no leaders. everyone shares everything just because they want to. There is no coercion.

This society probably works because nobody hoards all the resources. They live in the jungle and fruit is everywhere, so nobody can hoard all the resources.

This lends weight to the idea that humans are naturally good and that oppression is a product of scarce resources.

In other words, it is not natural for humans to be ruled by an "alpha male".


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13 Feb 2018, 8:52 pm

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It's important for us to never give up our struggle to make our species better.

Fact: The Pirahã people of the Amazon rainforest have a near-perfect society. There are no leaders. everyone shares everything just because they want to. There is no coercion.

This society probably works because nobody hoards all the resources. They live in the jungle and fruit is everywhere, so nobody can hoard all the resources.

This lends weight to the idea that humans are naturally good and that oppression is a product of scarce resources.

In other words, it is not natural for humans to be ruled by an "alpha male".


In other words, people who managed to stay in the Garden of Eden. :!:


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13 Feb 2018, 9:01 pm

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1. Refuse to be intimidated by trolls for Trump, their day will pass, and things will slowly recover.

Trolls for Trump
Very catchy :D


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13 Feb 2018, 9:38 pm

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"Alex Jones's film Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement proposes that the guidestones are a harbinger of self-appointed elites who intend on exterminating most of the world's population."

Then again, Alex Jones is either a stark raving, clinical paranoiac, or he's an irresponsible, sociopathic charlatan.


I know. That's why I found it amusing that you and blabby were on the same page with him regarding this.


I'm hardly on any page with Jones, I only acknowledged that I was aware of the Georgia stones, and commented on how the 1% might behave if given the opportunity to cut down the numbers of the sweaty masses.


And that's what Jones is claiming. But who would be their servants and build and make stuff for them and most importantly, provide the mass consumption that brings in all their cash?


Even the most psychopathic of the future rich wouldn't want to kill all working class people, just enough to get rid of the surplus population.


Ah so. If I remember my Dickens right Scrooge was referring to those who couldn't find work and needed soup kitchens. These days in my area the surplus population would be all the tweakers.



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13 Feb 2018, 9:41 pm

auntblabby wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
the only thing left us working class can do is STICK TOGETHER :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


This can only happen if the working class manages to look past racism, sexism, organised religion, patriotism, and other things which are divisive.

ok, the last time a hundred years ago and change, that the working class stood up and organized against the tyrants, what caused them to be able to look past racism etc. and work together? how do we get there again?


Indeed they threw their wooden clogs called sabos into the machinery to keep it from working, hince the term sabotage.



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13 Feb 2018, 10:31 pm

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1. Refuse to be intimidated by trolls for Trump, their day will pass, and things will slowly recover.



Do you consider those of us who are not anti-trump to be trolls? That does seem to be the case.

Why not just ban us? There's no admin to stop you. Rather than just deleting our posts, why not just get rid of us?



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13 Feb 2018, 10:56 pm

Moderators remove disruptive posts whoever posts them. Another moderator removed a post of yours this month calling another member "a f...... hypocrite" and I removed the disruptive posts in this thread. Bickering in threads is moderated by all moderators. If you are still disgruntled, I am happy to ask Alex to review the removed posts of yours this month. Don't try and personalise it to me, please, it has mainly been other moderators who have removed your posts and issued warnings to you in the past for rule breaches.



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13 Feb 2018, 11:10 pm

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Do you consider those of us who are not anti-trump to be trolls? That does seem to be the case.


pretty sure she's not just referring to people on this website. if you're looking for the most vile, hateful trolls-of-trolls who happen to support donald you probably won't find them here....i am glad to report.

are you officially pro-trump? i seem to recall you were just anti-hysteria, both of which i can dig.

individuals like Darmok and midnightstar are some of the nicest people who have ever roamed (?) this site, no one in their right mind would accuse them of trollery.


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