The Danger of Political Assassination from the Left

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24 Oct 2018, 6:56 pm

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The real terrorist threat comes from inside of America from people who look like a great many of us.

Yeah they put on black mask and terrorize Portland every week


Just who have they killed?

They’ve attacked lots of people only a matter of time before they kill someone
Why are you fine with their violence


I'm not fine with their violence. But as far as ideological murder is concerned, the right has cornered the market, beginning with the world's first terrorist organization, the KKK, through racist lynchings by white mobs, to Dylan Roof's church shooting and the murder of Heather Heyer by the Alt Right at Charlottesville.


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24 Oct 2018, 7:41 pm

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They’ve attacked lots of people only a matter of time before they kill someone
Why are you fine with their violence


You were saying?



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24 Oct 2018, 9:18 pm

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They’ve attacked lots of people only a matter of time before they kill someone
Why are you fine with their violence


You were saying?

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25 Oct 2018, 12:18 am

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They’ve attacked lots of people only a matter of time before they kill someone
Why are you fine with their violence


You were saying?


The best part of that article is about how their Trumpster MAGAt white supremacist leader fled to ... Mexico and had to be brought back to the US!

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The four are accused of travelling to events across California and to one in Charlottesville, Virginia, last year that led to the death of a woman and shocked the nation.

Earlier this month, four other members of the Rise Above Movement were charged with attacking counter-protesters at the Unite the Right march in Charlottesville in August 2017.

A woman died after a man drove into a crowd of counter-protesters.

The New York Times says Mr Rundo, 28, had crossed into Mexico and was "brought back" to the United States to be arrested at LA airport.

Fellow Rise Above Movement members Robert Boman, 25, and Tyler Laube, 22, were arrested on Wednesday while Aaron Eason, 38, remains at large.

The US Attorney's Office alleges they acted with "intent to incite, organise, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on riots".

Three of the four, including Mr Rundo, are accused of attacking counter-protesters and journalists at a Make America Great Again rally in Huntington Beach, California, in March.

Mr Rundo is alleged to have assaulted two protesters, while Mr Laube allegedly punched a journalist in the face.

Mr Rundo travelled to Europe earlier this year with two of those already charged in the Charlottesville case to celebrate the birthday of Adolf Hitler.



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25 Oct 2018, 1:57 am

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There has already been an attempted assassination with one congressman shot. This is on top of a steady stream of leftist harassment of government officials in public and at their homes, openly incited by leftist members of Congress and even by Obama's attorney general (the only attorney general in history to be held in contempt of Congress).

Rand Paul warns of 'assassination' peril after Kavanaugh confirmation: 'I really worry someone is going to be killed'

Following the bitterly partisan, acrimonious confirmation battle over Associate Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., warned in an interview on Tuesday that heated political rhetoric has the potential to turn deadly.

"I fear that there's going to be an assassination," Paul told a Kentucky radio show. "I really worry that somebody is going to be killed, and that those who are ratcheting up the conversation ... they have to realize they bear some responsibility if this elevates to violence."

Paul's comments came the same day former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton declared that Democrats "cannot be civil" with Republicans any longer.

Paul's wife, Kelley, revealed in a Breitbart News interview on Friday that she sleeps with a "loaded gun by my bed," has updated her home's security system and has "deadbolts all around my house." Kelley also wrote an op-ed published by CNN in which she called on Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., to tone down his rhetoric; in June, Booker suggested his supporters “get up in the face of congresspeople.”

The Kentucky senator reiterated his wife's criticism on Tuesday. "When people like Cory Booker say get up in their face ... What he doesn't realize is that for every 1,000 persons who want to get up in your face, one of them is going to be unstable enough to commit violence," Paul said.

And last fall, Paul was attacked and beaten in his yard in Kentucky by his neighbor -- an episode that a Kentucky Democrat joked about earlier this year.

Paul was attending the congressional baseball practice last summer when a gunman opened fire, hitting House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La., in the hip and injuring two Capitol police officers and an aide. The episode was very nearly a "massacre," lawmakers said.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rand-p ... -be-killed


A couple of weeks later someone mails appearntly fake pipebombs to democrats.



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25 Oct 2018, 2:02 am

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There has already been an attempted assassination with one congressman shot. This is on top of a steady stream of leftist harassment of government officials in public and at their homes, openly incited by leftist members of Congress and even by Obama's attorney general (the only attorney general in history to be held in contempt of Congress).

Rand Paul warns of 'assassination' peril after Kavanaugh confirmation: 'I really worry someone is going to be killed'

Following the bitterly partisan, acrimonious confirmation battle over Associate Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., warned in an interview on Tuesday that heated political rhetoric has the potential to turn deadly.

"I fear that there's going to be an assassination," Paul told a Kentucky radio show. "I really worry that somebody is going to be killed, and that those who are ratcheting up the conversation ... they have to realize they bear some responsibility if this elevates to violence."

Paul's comments came the same day former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton declared that Democrats "cannot be civil" with Republicans any longer.

Paul's wife, Kelley, revealed in a Breitbart News interview on Friday that she sleeps with a "loaded gun by my bed," has updated her home's security system and has "deadbolts all around my house." Kelley also wrote an op-ed published by CNN in which she called on Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., to tone down his rhetoric; in June, Booker suggested his supporters “get up in the face of congresspeople.”

The Kentucky senator reiterated his wife's criticism on Tuesday. "When people like Cory Booker say get up in their face ... What he doesn't realize is that for every 1,000 persons who want to get up in your face, one of them is going to be unstable enough to commit violence," Paul said.

And last fall, Paul was attacked and beaten in his yard in Kentucky by his neighbor -- an episode that a Kentucky Democrat joked about earlier this year.

Paul was attending the congressional baseball practice last summer when a gunman opened fire, hitting House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La., in the hip and injuring two Capitol police officers and an aide. The episode was very nearly a "massacre," lawmakers said.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rand-p ... -be-killed


A couple of weeks later someone mails appearntly fake pipebombs to democrats.


Where did you get the idea that the bombs were fake? The FBI is treating them as legitimate explosives.


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25 Oct 2018, 2:18 am

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Where did you get the idea that the bombs were fake? The FBI is treating them as legitimate explosives.



You mean where did I get the idea that they're appearntly fake:

"None of the devices harmed anyone, and it was not immediately clear whether any of them could have. One law enforcement official said investigators were examining the possibility that they were hoax devices that were constructed to look like bombs but would not have exploded.... Coming less than two weeks before the midterm elections"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... e.amp.html



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25 Oct 2018, 3:24 pm

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Where did you get the idea that the bombs were fake? The FBI is treating them as legitimate explosives.



You mean where did I get the idea that they're appearntly fake:

"None of the devices harmed anyone, and it was not immediately clear whether any of them could have. One law enforcement official said investigators were examining the possibility that they were hoax devices that were constructed to look like bombs but would not have exploded.... Coming less than two weeks before the midterm elections"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... e.amp.html


While the FBI is examining the possibility that this was a hoax, that hardly means that it is. It only means that the agency that Trump has been tearing down in his speeches and tweets is diligent in exploring all angles.


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25 Oct 2018, 6:04 pm

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They’ve attacked lots of people only a matter of time before they kill someone
Why are you fine with their violence


You were saying?


Why are you ok with Antifas violent riots and attacking people?
Why do you Jeep dodging the question and pointing to racist extremists. I don’t give two s**ts that some racist people do it to. I’m not the one pretending the left is innocent and Antifa is a good group.
Left won’t even try to stop them either their order the police to stand down and let them commit violence and breaks laws.



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25 Oct 2018, 8:04 pm

People are worried about a threat from the Left when there's a mad MAGAbomber running loose.



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25 Oct 2018, 8:23 pm

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People are worried about a threat from the Left when there's a mad MAGAbomber running loose.


That's because it seems seems more like a hoax created by someone from the left.



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25 Oct 2018, 8:50 pm

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People are worried about a threat from the Left when there's a mad MAGAbomber running loose.


That's because it seems seems more like a hoax created by someone from the left.










...Aside from you perhaps wanting it to be...why do you think so????? I have just seen headlines regarding more apparent bombs being found, these at places of ex-Veep Joe Biden, and vocally anti-Trump actor Robert DeNiro (If these have a separate thread up already, pleez exyoooz...).
I will grant that, yes, a " false flag " - double agant - operation is POSSIBLE - but so is a triple agant operation!! !! !! !! !! ! Frankly, I think a just what it seems " single agent " operation is the likliest of all - You think :) ?


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25 Oct 2018, 8:58 pm

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People are worried about a threat from the Left when there's a mad MAGAbomber running loose.


That's because it seems seems more like a hoax created by someone from the left.



...Aside from you perhaps wanting it to be...why do you think so????? I have just seen headlines regarding more apparent bombs being found, these at places of ex-Veep Joe Biden, and vocally anti-Trump actor Robert DeNiro (If these have a separate thread up already, pleez exyoooz...).
I will grant that, yes, a " false flag " - double agant - operation is POSSIBLE - but so is a triple agant operation!! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Frankly, I think a just what it seems " single agent " operation is the likliest of all - You think :) ?


There's no want in my case. I have no emotional investment. If the situation were reversed I would come to the same conclusion at this time. It seems like a pretty straightforward hoax designed to get the kind of reaction it has garnered. I'm perfectly willing to take into consideration that I might be wrong.



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25 Oct 2018, 9:54 pm

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People are worried about a threat from the Left when there's a mad MAGAbomber running loose.


That's because it seems seems more like a hoax created by someone from the left.


It's clear enough tht the bombs were sent by a MAGAt. All the evidence points to it, and we may know soon enough because the perp printed out his address labels. Everything you print from a color printer (nowadays, practically all of them, even when the object printed is b/w) is traceable to the printer from which it came.

see:

List of Printers Which Do or Do Not Display Tracking Dots

But there's actually another possibility that no one seems to be considering. Although I discount it myself, I present it for the delectation of all the Trumpian conspiracy theorists here, so that no corner remains unturned. What if the bomber is nonpolitical and is targeting bombs at many people as a subterfuge, but in fact is targeting just one person the perp knows for some personal reason and is using all the others just to throw off the investigation?



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25 Oct 2018, 11:10 pm

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Trumpian conspiracy theorists here


The agencies investigating it have considered that it might be a hoax or a stunt, and they are actively pursuing that possibility.