Climate Scientists Slam Trump: "He's a dangerous clown"

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22 Nov 2018, 7:39 am

Scientists Slam Trump’s Clueless Climate Change Tweet: ‘He’s A Clown’ - On the eve of what’s expected to be a cold Thanksgiving in the Northeast, the president asked: “Whatever happened to Global Warming?”

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President Donald Trump once again cast doubt on the scientific consensus behind climate change Wednesday night because forecasters said it could be cold in parts of America this week.

“Brutal and Extended Cold Blast could shatter ALL RECORDS,” Trump, who is vacationing in 80-degree weather at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida for Thanksgiving, tweeted late Monday. “Whatever happened to Global Warming?”

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Brutal and Extended Cold Blast could shatter ALL RECORDS - Whatever happened to Global Warming?
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 22, 2018
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“This demonstrates once again that Donald Trump is not an individual to be taken seriously on any topic, let alone matters as serious as climate change,” Michael Mann, a climate scientist at Pennsylvania State University, told HuffPost in an email. “He is a clown — a dangerous clown.”

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I know you’re Mr. America-is-all-that-matters, but climate is actually a global phenomenon. Here’s today’s global weather map (oh, and red=hot.) As a whole, Earth is about 1.2 degrees above preindustrial temps today pic.twitter.com/kRaGd7cZF3
— Bill McKibben (@billmckibben) November 22, 2018
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The president’s comments come as California is dealing from the ongoing effects of several massive wildfires, including the devastating Camp fire that left at least 81 people dead. It’s difficult to link any specific natural disaster with climate change, but scientists note that California’s climate has been changing in recent decades, which may contribute to fires happening more frequently and growing far bigger.

“The fact of the matter is if you look at the state of California, climate challenge is happening statewide,” Los Angeles Fire Chief Daryl Osby said earlier this month as the region was dealing with another horrific blaze. “It is going to be here for the foreseeable future.”

Trump toured the ruins of Paradise, a town in Northern California that bore the brunt of the Camp fire. When asked if he believed climate change had contributed to the blaze, the president demurred, saying a “lot of factors” were to blame.

“I have a strong opinion,” he said. “I want great climate.”



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22 Nov 2018, 12:03 pm

These GW scientists should lean to talk like adults.

That would help their credibility some.


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22 Nov 2018, 1:13 pm

They write like adults,which seems to me a stark comparison to the President's covfefe standard of limited and bizarre vocabulary, poorly formed "literary" outbursts, the childish overuse of exclamation marks and bizarre sentence construction.

But the thread isn't about that. Climate impacts are too serious to divert the conversation to trivia.



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22 Nov 2018, 11:21 pm

Duh.

And not just to Americans. Him and his group of deplorables energy & environmental policies are going to have an impact on the entire world.


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23 Nov 2018, 12:24 pm

I second B19's opinion. The president neither writes nor speaks in a manner that deserves to be taken more seriously. There are youngsters on assorted websites who write better than him.

What does he mean by "I want great climate"? Surely we all do but he should be able to phrase it better and explain what he figures on doing to ensure it stays "great".


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23 Nov 2018, 7:53 pm

That is offensive to clowns.

Don’t clowns have to put up with enough s**t without being compared to Trump?


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23 Nov 2018, 8:06 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
That is offensive to clowns.

Don’t clowns have to put up with enough s**t without being compared to Trump?



I've always hated clowns, so it don't bother my ass, none.


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23 Nov 2018, 9:04 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
That is offensive to clowns.

Don’t clowns have to put up with enough s**t without being compared to Trump?


The question is, will Bozo or Ronald McDonald sue for the damage to their reputations entailed by being compared to slime like Trump?



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26 Nov 2018, 1:45 am

thoughtbeast wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
That is offensive to clowns.

Don’t clowns have to put up with enough s**t without being compared to Trump?


The question is, will Bozo or Ronald McDonald sue for the damage to their reputations entailed by being compared to slime like Trump?


Maybe Trump and Pogo the clown, the alter ego of John Wayne Gacy's ghost, will counter sue.


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30 Nov 2018, 12:07 pm

I'm not some eco-mentalist, but I've never understood the desire by some to ignore any protections for the environment. I don't think it's doing anyone any good if half of Florida is under water.

Then again...I don't understand why left-wingers oppose nuclear power, which is really the only viable solution to the problem.


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30 Nov 2018, 2:50 pm

BaronHarkonnen85 wrote:
I'm not some eco-mentalist, but I've never understood the desire by some to ignore any protections for the environment. I don't think it's doing anyone any good if half of Florida is under water.

Then again...I don't understand why left-wingers oppose nuclear power, which is really the only viable solution to the problem.


You obviously never lived through the mess known as Three Mile Island, which is the extreme northern end of York County,PA, smack dab in the middle of the Susquehanna River. Go further south on the River about 40 miles and you come to a small town in Lancaster County, PA (also a river town) called Peach Bottom, another nuclear power reactor. Further up the river, close to Wilkes-Barre, is the former Berwick Nuclear Power station, now known as the Susquehanna Steam Power Generation Station. Until you have lived through a nuclear power plant accident (even though I was attending college close to Pittsburgh at the time, My parents still lived between TMI and Peach Bottom, close to where I currently reside), you have no idea what kind of panic was ensuing.



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02 Dec 2018, 11:45 am

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BaronHarkonnen85 wrote:
I'm not some eco-mentalist, but I've never understood the desire by some to ignore any protections for the environment. I don't think it's doing anyone any good if half of Florida is under water.

Then again...I don't understand why left-wingers oppose nuclear power, which is really the only viable solution to the problem.


You obviously never lived through the mess known as Three Mile Island, which is the extreme northern end of York County,PA, smack dab in the middle of the Susquehanna River. Go further south on the River about 40 miles and you come to a small town in Lancaster County, PA (also a river town) called Peach Bottom, another nuclear power reactor. Further up the river, close to Wilkes-Barre, is the former Berwick Nuclear Power station, now known as the Susquehanna Steam Power Generation Station. Until you have lived through a nuclear power plant accident (even though I was attending college close to Pittsburgh at the time, My parents still lived between TMI and Peach Bottom, close to where I currently reside), you have no idea what kind of panic was ensuing.


The keyword there is panic. Many people go crazy when it comes to nuclear power and radiation. Nuclear power the safest viable alternative to fossil fuels. No one died from radiation at Three Mile Island. No one died from radiation poisoning at Fukushima. And Chernobyl was a poorly built facility. They didn't even have a containment building, so the radiation just sort of leaked out. Even then, the deaths at Chernobyl are lower than the yearly estimated deaths from fossil fuels.

I'm sorry. But nuclear power is the only viable solution. Solar and wind aren't reliable. Germany tried that and wound up increasing their CO2 emissions.

One should understand there are different types of reactors. The newer reactors are safer than the older light-water reactors.


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02 Dec 2018, 11:47 am

thoughtbeast wrote:
Climate Scientists Slam Trump: "He's A Dangerous Clown"
That statement is an insult to clowns everywhere.