Democrats keep proving how detached they are from reality

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But, but, but . . . Orange Man Bad!

How dare members of a national political party agree on something that's in the best interest of the nation, it's citizens, international relations, trade, and the general direction of the country & it's policies both foreign and domestic.. Mmhmm, definitely detached from reality.

WOW----Kudos to the NYP for removing the smoke and mirrors, for once; I really appreciate that article!!

The general direction of the country will continue on its current path regardless of whether Trump is in office or not. To be honest, Trump has not been as bad on foreign policy as his predecessors.

trump could be doing a lot worse policy-wise, ja.

it's like dems keep forgetting that they need the senate to convict and right now it's full of trump's minions. i don't see them getting a filibuster-proof majority in that house until 2022.

if trump is kicked he's just going to be replaced by someone smarter, more politically experienced and ideologically resembling a christian taliban with a garfield fixation.
we may be better off keeping him in office distracted with his golf and TV, just obstructing every bad thing he does. i don't want pence in the oval office.

Trump has not brought peace; the wars in the Middle East and the bellicose rhetoric against Russia, Iran, China and North Korea (to name only a few) have been stepped up. He's also failed to bring prosperity as the gap between rich and poor gets ever wider, with public services disappearing and regulations that kept the public safe being repealed.

I'm not a fan of Obama or Bush either, but Trump has equally, and probably more, been a disaster.

i don't understand the mentality of regulations = job killing evil. they're there to keep us safe, unbounded corporations can NEVER be trusted not to screw people over.

People still haven't got over the ridiculous 18th century Smithian ideal of a "free" market, holding on to it with the same irrational fervour Creationists hold on to the Genesis myth.

Trump is like a test the democrats failed miserably by coming apart at the seams.

Do you really think Trump cares about you or the interests of people on the Autistic spectrum in the US, Ezra? Like he cares about any minority groups that aren't within his scope of interest or that benefit him?

Prometheus is right about his dodgy foreign policy.

I'm not saying the Dems are perfect, far from it but they have a duty to a act as a watchdog and protect your fragile democracy.

Do you think any politician cares about us or anyone who’s not rich?
Democrats throw us , blacks, gays etc under the bus as soon as it benifits them. Gun control is a prime example.
If you own guns and you’re one of the above they attack you. They tried to illegally take away disabled peoples rights to score some points and had left lean groups push back against them for it. They still to this day say we are dangerous mentally ill people.
Why support a party who would lock us up in mental hospitals if they had their way?
Not to say the other wouldn’t too, neither care about us or anyone really. They care about themselves, making them richer which means caring about the rich who pay them. We are just useful tools to do so and they playcate us during elections only. Once they get elected they don’t do anything in our best interests.
Democrats are not the people’s party. Both parties work for the same people they more alike then they are different

Protect lol
They trying their hardest to destroy our republic and our rights.
At the top is freedom of speech and right to bear arms. Why do you suppose they want to strip those two rights away?
So we are unarmed, can’t speak out and can’t gather to protest, sure don’t sound like a democracy

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Agreed. Republicans believe in the capability of every individual. Democrats patronize at every turn. I should say the leadership. I think compassion, charity, and individual liberty are the most important aspects of living in a free society.

We should appeal to the equal opportunity of every individual. Equal results leaves everyone equally poor. Sometimes people need help, but we need to help them seek opportunity and help them achieve. It goes along the lines of teach a man to fish rather than to fish for them.

I think we all disagree with how to best care about people who have autism. People of goodwill will have different solutions. No one is evil, but different ideologies are going to have different solutions as to what helps the most people and what helps specific people with autism.

We are a constitutional republic, not a democracy. That is an attempt to protect individual liberty. If you had a pure democracy, it would not be good for people whom have autism or for minority groups.

America is not great because it's perfect, it's great when it attempts to improve on the problems of the present so they can become a part of the past rather than to linger on.

Capitalism has "failed" but it is better than all the other systems tried. A market economy means that an individual who invents something or can persuade others to buy their product or that helps mankind will prosper in a market economy.

As for Genesis, that depends on how you interpret the narrative. Mainly it's how you interpret time. It's very difficult to make the case that Genesis means that humans were literally created 6,000 years ago and created in what humans call 7 days. God's 7 days could be the same as human days or the days could represent eons in the universe history. The timescale of God doesn't matter as to create the Big Bang around 13.8 billion years ago and have evolution happen where mankind was created eventually by all the random events that preceded mankind is just miraculous. Is heaven the parallel universe that is on the opposite side of the big bang? What's the heaven and/or Earth that God's followers are supposed to inherit?

Basically, I am saying that there is a logical argument that Christians make. You can disagree how the course of events happened and believe that everything was coincidental. There were at least five mass extinctions in Earth's history and as we explore the galaxy, we see just how difficult it is to create a habitable planet for intelligent life and then for everything to line up perfectly to allow the evolution of the human species.

Capitalism fails on a theoretical level because all of its conclusions are drawn from the premise of perfect competition, which can never be realised in reality because of the fact of corruption and collusion. The practical side of this is what you see unfolding around you as an American - an ever expanding gap between rich and poor, a life expectancy which is, for the first time in history, FALLING and the planet's environment being destroyed by human greed.

Socialism, moderated by private ownership and enterprise, provided those things don't lend an excessive or coercive amount of power to any one person or group of people, is the best system to have been devised, and this is shown by the miracle of British Democratic Socialism last century, which brought us a functional welfare state which incentived employment while providing a safety net for the unemployed; which brought us the NHS; and which brought us record home ownership.

Your comment about the market economy might have some truth to it, but generally speaking it's those who can already command forces of capital who stand to make the money.

As for Genesis, my comments were a criticism of Creationists, not of rational Christians, although I do think trying to revive the Genesis myth, even in rationalised terms like those above, is a mistake.