Why do liberals care more about illegal immigrants?

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Here's 36 times Obama Said You Could Keep Your Health Care Plan.



Now is that 36 separate lies or one lie told several times?

Anyone who defends Spanky and his proposed $5 billion monument to white supremacy is also defending locking up children in chain-link cages in concentration camps in the Texas desert.

The Moral Failure of Family Separation

I Don’t Grieve Over His Cruelty. I Grieve Over Yours.

Don't try to defend the indefensible.

I'm not particularly in favor of the wall, but didn't they detain illegal aliens before trump? And in general when parents are arrested while in custody of their children, aren't the children usually removed, rather than mingling with the adult population being detained or under arrest?

Maybe, but the inner city high crime slums of the major cities in the U.S. that have been democratically controlled for many decades to the point of it being a foregone conclusion that the residents will vote democrat, speaks otherwise.

That's the problem I have with the idea that democratic politicians and the democratic party almost can't get out of bed in the morning they're so wracked with anguish over the plight of the downtrodden that they've already given the shirt off their own backs for the unfortunate and are pleading out of kindness that the rest of society "see the light" and become Albert Schweitzer or Mother Theresa like they allegedly are. If their politically controlled areas like inner cities were model humanitarian success stories it would make sense to me. Given that they're perpetually the opposite is incongruous.

I just came back to Wrong Planet after four years. Never much participated on the political forum ,as there is too much cacophony for me to have coherent dialogue; however I have something significant to say regarding this particular topic as it relates specifically to my own special interest about how human beings process data, but first, to Ezra; You wrote:

"I'm not particularly in favor of the wall, but didn't they detain illegal aliens before trump? And in general when parents are arrested while in custody of their children, aren't the children usually removed, rather than mingling with the adult population being detained or under arrest?

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To Ezra, doesn't being "comfortably numb" effect the way you process data? The mind/sfeelings need to be alive, and maybe even a little uncomfortable at times, to bbe able to look and find.

Also, too lazy to google? it just takes a minute:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 728060002/

Also, "the wall" is, generally speaking, a symbol for something else; this relates to the way people process data, but there are honorable ways to generalize, as well as imo dishonorable ways to do so. Am not saying you are doing it in this or that way, but it might be worthwhile to take a look at how you are processing data, especially when you are still young and there is probably a better chance to catch a glimpse of it.

Still doesn't make him a pathological liar like trump who on record has lied 700% more.

Ad hominem - of an argument or reaction directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.

2. Personal attacks.
This includes insinuation, ridicule and personal insults, regardless of whether direct or indirect. Attacking an opinion, belief or philosophy is acceptable, but attacking the person making the comments is not.

What I'm saying is that Snopes concluded not everything called a lie was technically a lie and that what's called a lie can can be greatly expanded and exaggerated.

No. It means exactly what it sounds like - a person who supports globalism: open borders, multiculturalism, the European Union, anti-nationalism, etc.

I happen to like multiculturalism myself.

I happen to like to talk to people of different nationalities.

One can appreciate other cultures without wanting to see it on one's local streets.

To Ezra, so sorry! What I wrote to you was in no way intended to be any kind of attack or put down, but the way you responded is your perception and I respect that. Secondly, I was not reacting when I wrote what I wrote. I was conscious and acting from a clear and peaceful mind, though this is not to say I never react; also, what I wrote was written out of love. Again, sorry, and will be more careful when/if I respond to you in the future. This said, this particular interaction has been very valuable to me and a genuine learning experience.

Speaking of my own life-transforming experience, inner feelings of numbness greatly affected the way I personally was processing data in the past. I left certain information out and maybe put some other stuff in, and when I finally saw through it, my entire life was transformed as I was able to remember back to some traumatic childhood experience which I already knew happened, but this time, I felt it, and it transformed my life, but, again, this is about me and not about you. I am not suggesting you do this, but opnly explaining where I was coming from, as I was trying to share my own experience. I will write on a different WP forum and thread in the future, maybe, about my personal experience with being numb. The key point and basic gist of what I was trying to convey about why this problem on the border is happening (imo) is because of the incomplete and often slanted way people on both sides of the 'fence':-) are processing data. It is not inclusive in a certain way that is possible. This subject is very interesting to me, especially since my greatest passion for several decades is social science/biophysics.

Love to all and peace out.

I'm triggered by mariachi bands too.

My apologies if I read you wrong during a time when some people in this forum think it's okay to belittle others and derail threads making disparaging personal remarks and critiquing someone. If someone feels they must engage in such, they should at least take it to PM, instead of a thread being derailed by me becoming the subject. If I were an attention whore, I'd be in hog heaven with all of this. And lines like "Also, too lazy to google? it just takes a minute" sounds condescending.

If you want to discuss me more, please take it to PM.

Thanks Ezra, yes, I agree that what I wrote about google does sound condescending (and also was possibly disruptive, though not intended to be so), so, again, sorry. This is actually how I talk to a lot of people a lot of time, maybe because I am autistic and have a poorly developed theory of mind in some regard and so erroneously think/feel that the other person will feel the love, and usually they do if it is in face to face personal contact, and in daily life this personality style can cut a lot of grease so a convo doesn't get bogged down (not to imply this convo even was bogged down), but obviously online a lot of this mode of communication does not translate. I already knew this, I suppose, but forgot, though. because this subject is my passion and I got carried away.

Okay, moving on, I think what I wrote about the wall representing different things to different people is of value. It is an obvious point that everyone here already knows, I suppose, but I think the explanation of what is happening around immigration and the answer to your question partly hinges on the principle that because of the way the human brain processes data, one thing often represents something else.

I am probably going to be spending a lot of time on various news, current events discussion, so to introduce myself to people here: I am obviously a democrat, or liberal, if you want to put it that way, as many if not most here probably are, but I am more moderate, and it is my opinion that a lot of the drama that is happening is literally a backlash against ill-concealed liberal policy, a lot of which is based upon a misunderstanding of the principle of so called natural human rights, a la Rousseau. Most people studied this philosopher in school but really have little or no idea of the profound affect this writer had upon Western political policy. Will write more on this later or maybe start a thread sometime, but, in short, some people, especially far left liberals of the progressive socialists ilk have misinterpreted writing of that philosopher that was maybe written more from a legal slant or justice perspective, and taken it literally, BUT-- one is not really literally born with any kind of natural right, either to food, housing or anything, though compassionate people do wish other people to have food and housing and healthcare and be happy. Pax out.

Same here.

I worked for around 12 years in 2 companies, both of which I had the same role of being the main contact for various overseas customers and staff. I kind of fell into it originally but loved it soon enough and when I was thinking of moving on I spoke to another company I had contact with and asked about a job there knowing they had a similar set up. At the 2nd company I was the only British person permanently in the UK office. I am somewhat obsessed by different cultures, European history and languages so I was in my element there. They were lovely people too and I spent much of my time quizzing them on their respective countries and trying to understand detail about the cultural and sometimes political complexities of their homelands.