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16 Feb 2019, 2:32 am

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Are you trying tar the reputation of Elizabeth Warren's native ancestry by comparing her to Rachel Dolezal?

Yes, two peas in the same pod.


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16 Feb 2019, 2:43 am

If Elizabeth Warren is an Indian, then so am I and thousands of other whities.



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16 Feb 2019, 2:46 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Are you trying tar the reputation of Elizabeth Warren's native ancestry by comparing her to Rachel Dolezal?

Yes, two peas in the same pod.


Dolezal, who had carried out her masquerade as an African American in my own home community of Spokane, bears little resemblance to Warren, who had been led to believe she was a native American by her own family. The proof in the pudding can be found in how these two women's families reacted to their claims.
Rachel Dolezal's own parents finally outed her for her lies to the Spokane news media.
Elizabeth Warren's family never questioned her claims, as they all believed the same thing.


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16 Feb 2019, 2:48 am

I’m white.

I accept my black wife into my “space.”



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16 Feb 2019, 2:52 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Are you trying tar the reputation of Elizabeth Warren's native ancestry by comparing her to Rachel Dolezal?

Yes, two peas in the same pod.


Dolezal, who had carried out her masquerade as an African American in my own home community of Spokane, bears little resemblance to Warren, who had been led to believe she was a native American by her own family. The proof in the pudding can be found in how these two women's families reacted to their claims.
Rachel Dolezal's own parents finally outed her for her lies to the Spokane news media.
Elizabeth Warren's family never questioned her claims, as they all believed the same thing.

That's not true.

Rachel actually believes herself to be black.


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16 Feb 2019, 2:57 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Are you trying tar the reputation of Elizabeth Warren's native ancestry by comparing her to Rachel Dolezal?

Yes, two peas in the same pod.


Dolezal, who had carried out her masquerade as an African American in my own home community of Spokane, bears little resemblance to Warren, who had been led to believe she was a native American by her own family. The proof in the pudding can be found in how these two women's families reacted to their claims.
Rachel Dolezal's own parents finally outed her for her lies to the Spokane news media.
Elizabeth Warren's family never questioned her claims, as they all believed the same thing.

That's not true.

Rachel actually believes herself to be black.


That is incorrect. When pressed, she finally relented, and conceded she only admired African Americans so much that she wanted to be one. In fact, there are photos of her from her teen years where she is clearly blonde and fair skinned.


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16 Feb 2019, 3:01 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Are you trying tar the reputation of Elizabeth Warren's native ancestry by comparing her to Rachel Dolezal?

Yes, two peas in the same pod.


Dolezal, who had carried out her masquerade as an African American in my own home community of Spokane, bears little resemblance to Warren, who had been led to believe she was a native American by her own family. The proof in the pudding can be found in how these two women's families reacted to their claims.
Rachel Dolezal's own parents finally outed her for her lies to the Spokane news media.
Elizabeth Warren's family never questioned her claims, as they all believed the same thing.

That's not true.

Rachel actually believes herself to be black.


That is incorrect. When pressed, she finally relented, and conceded she only admired African Americans so much that she wanted to be one. In fact, there are photos of her from her teen years where she is clearly blonde and fair skinned.

"In a November 2, 2015 interview on The Real, Doležal publicly acknowledged for the first time since the controversy began that she was white. She said, "I acknowledge that I was biologically born white to white parents, but I identify as black"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Dolezal

She identifies as "Black" like Warren identifies as "Native American".


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16 Feb 2019, 3:04 am

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I’m white.

I accept my black wife into my “space.”


I have a black aunt, a Dominican aunt, a Mexican great uncle and many cousins from those unions. All of whom are accepted throughout the entire extended family.



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16 Feb 2019, 3:06 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Are you trying tar the reputation of Elizabeth Warren's native ancestry by comparing her to Rachel Dolezal?

Yes, two peas in the same pod.


Dolezal, who had carried out her masquerade as an African American in my own home community of Spokane, bears little resemblance to Warren, who had been led to believe she was a native American by her own family. The proof in the pudding can be found in how these two women's families reacted to their claims.
Rachel Dolezal's own parents finally outed her for her lies to the Spokane news media.
Elizabeth Warren's family never questioned her claims, as they all believed the same thing.

That's not true.

Rachel actually believes herself to be black.


That is incorrect. When pressed, she finally relented, and conceded she only admired African Americans so much that she wanted to be one. In fact, there are photos of her from her teen years where she is clearly blonde and fair skinned.

"In a November 2, 2015 interview on The Real, Doležal publicly acknowledged for the first time since the controversy began that she was white. She said, "I acknowledge that I was biologically born white to white parents, but I identify as black"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Dolezal

She identifies as "Black" like Warren identifies as "Native American".


Newsflash: Warren accepted the truth of the DNA testing and has since apologized for speaking an untruth told to her. Dolezal has only expressed how she is probably insane.


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16 Feb 2019, 3:15 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Are you trying tar the reputation of Elizabeth Warren's native ancestry by comparing her to Rachel Dolezal?

Yes, two peas in the same pod.


Dolezal, who had carried out her masquerade as an African American in my own home community of Spokane, bears little resemblance to Warren, who had been led to believe she was a native American by her own family. The proof in the pudding can be found in how these two women's families reacted to their claims.
Rachel Dolezal's own parents finally outed her for her lies to the Spokane news media.
Elizabeth Warren's family never questioned her claims, as they all believed the same thing.



Warren like me, and thousands of other white people, was told she had a Native American ancestor. She then proclaimed in writing that she was an American Indian and signed it.

I am quite sure that Warren is just as able to tell the difference between having an Indian ancestor and actually being an Indian as I am. Warren took her 1/1024th% and pretended it was 100%.

I don't think she was the least bit "mislead" or "confused" regarding the matter - any more than the thousands of us who had (or might have had) an Indian ancestor.



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16 Feb 2019, 3:17 am

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Newsflash: Warren accepted the truth of the DNA testing and has since apologized for speaking an untruth told to her. Dolezal has only expressed how she is probably insane.


Meaning they both confessed to being white people pretending to be people of color.



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16 Feb 2019, 3:26 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Newsflash: Warren accepted the truth of the DNA testing and has since apologized for speaking an untruth told to her. Dolezal has only expressed how she is probably insane.


Meaning they both confessed to being white people pretending to be people of color.


Warren conceded she had labored under an untruth for years. Dolezal was the one purposely pretending to be something she was not.


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16 Feb 2019, 3:32 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Are you trying tar the reputation of Elizabeth Warren's native ancestry by comparing her to Rachel Dolezal?

Yes, two peas in the same pod.


Dolezal, who had carried out her masquerade as an African American in my own home community of Spokane, bears little resemblance to Warren, who had been led to believe she was a native American by her own family. The proof in the pudding can be found in how these two women's families reacted to their claims.
Rachel Dolezal's own parents finally outed her for her lies to the Spokane news media.
Elizabeth Warren's family never questioned her claims, as they all believed the same thing.



Warren like me, and thousands of other white people, was told she had a Native American ancestor. She then proclaimed in writing that she was an American Indian and signed it.

I am quite sure that Warren is just as able to tell the difference between having an Indian ancestor and actually being an Indian as I am. Warren took her 1/1024th% and pretended it was 100%.

I don't think she was the least bit "mislead" or "confused" regarding the matter - any more than the thousands of us who had (or might have had) an Indian ancestor.


It all a matter of who and what one believes is his or her identity.


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16 Feb 2019, 3:35 am

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Then how do you explain all the whites who adopt date marry and procreate with non-whites? It's said there are thousands of whites who have a Native American ancestor.


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I’m white.

I accept my black wife into my “space.”


I am speaking about societies/communities as a whole rather than individuals. Yeah I have a non-white wife too...I remember the disappointment in my parent's faces when I told them...having a non-white child with autism is like compounding the likelihood of social ostracism I guess...

My wife/daughter live in our own space, I've essentially divorced my white extended family



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16 Feb 2019, 3:41 am

cyberdad wrote:
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Then how do you explain all the whites who adopt date marry and procreate with non-whites? It's said there are thousands of whites who have a Native American ancestor.


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I’m white.

I accept my black wife into my “space.”


I am speaking about societies/communities as a whole rather than individuals. Yeah I have a non-white wife too...I remember the disappointment in my parent's faces when I told them...having a non-white child with autism is like compounding the likelihood of social ostracism I guess...

My wife/daughter live in our own space, I've essentially divorced my white extended family


Your wife and child Are your family first and foremost.


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16 Feb 2019, 3:43 am

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Warren conceded she had labored under an untruth for years.


What was the untruth?