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karathraceandherspecialdestiny
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20 Feb 2019, 9:52 pm

Politico: ‘Sustained and ongoing’ disinformation assault targets Dem presidential candidates

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"A coordinated barrage of social media attacks suggests the involvement of foreign state actors.

A wide-ranging disinformation campaign aimed at Democratic 2020 candidates is already underway on social media, with signs that foreign state actors are driving at least some of the activity.

The main targets appear to be Sens. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), and former Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-Texas), four of the most prominent announced or prospective candidates for president.

A POLITICO review of recent data extracted from Twitter and from other platforms, as well as interviews with data scientists and digital campaign strategists, suggests that the goal of the coordinated barrage appears to be undermining the nascent candidacies through the dissemination of memes, hashtags, misinformation and distortions of their positions. But the divisive nature of many of the posts also hints at a broader effort to sow discord and chaos within the Democratic presidential primary.

The cyber propaganda — which frequently picks at the rawest, most sensitive issues in public discourse — is being pushed across a variety of platforms and with a more insidious approach than in the 2016 presidential election, when online attacks designed to polarize and mislead voters first surfaced on a massive scale.



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20 Feb 2019, 9:55 pm

The establishment seems to want Joe Biden.


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20 Feb 2019, 10:07 pm

I don't consider myself a "liberal" or a "conservative" but I think a level playing field in politics is important.

I'll play the devil's advocate as how I think a "conservative" would respond to the news you've posted:

'Oh, puhleeze. Call me when social media like FB, Twitter, etc stops suppressing "conservative" content and we can whine together.....'

Also, very good point, LoveNotHate: Whose to say if it is a "coordinated effort" that it's not the democratic establishment weaving the tangled web.....



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20 Feb 2019, 10:42 pm

I think we should worry more about the disinformation coming out of our own corrupt media than other countries.

The new McCarthyism continues!


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20 Feb 2019, 10:48 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
I think we should worry more about the disinformation coming out of our own corrupt media than other countries.

The new McCarthyism continues!


Who needs evidence when you have opinions. :lol:



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20 Feb 2019, 10:57 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
I think we should worry more about the disinformation coming out of our own corrupt media than other countries.

The new McCarthyism continues!


Who needs evidence when you have opinions. :lol:



Apparently everyone who bought in the Russian narrative.


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20 Feb 2019, 11:39 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
I think we should worry more about the disinformation coming out of our own corrupt media than other countries.

The new McCarthyism continues!


Who needs evidence when you have opinions. :lol:



Apparently everyone who bought in the Russian narrative.


If it's not from RT it's not a legit source on the Russia investigation. :lol: You're good for a laugh VM, I'll give you that much.



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20 Feb 2019, 11:46 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
I think we should worry more about the disinformation coming out of our own corrupt media than other countries.

The new McCarthyism continues!


Who needs evidence when you have opinions. :lol:



Apparently everyone who bought in the Russian narrative.


If it's not from RT it's not a legit source on the Russia investigation. :lol: You're good for a laugh VM, I'll give you that much.



Fact: There still remains no evidence of Russia collusion. Why do you resort to snarky comments when you have no argument? (I love rhetorical questions.)


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21 Feb 2019, 12:17 am

VegetableMan wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
I think we should worry more about the disinformation coming out of our own corrupt media than other countries.

The new McCarthyism continues!


Who needs evidence when you have opinions. :lol:



Apparently everyone who bought in the Russian narrative.


If it's not from RT it's not a legit source on the Russia investigation. :lol: You're good for a laugh VM, I'll give you that much.



Fact: There still remains no evidence of Russia collusion. Why do you resort to snarky comments when you have no argument? (I love rhetorical questions.)


Trumps people frantically denying they had met with the Russians, even though evidence shows that they had, says there's something they don't want getting out in relation to the Russians.


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21 Feb 2019, 12:27 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
I think we should worry more about the disinformation coming out of our own corrupt media than other countries.

The new McCarthyism continues!


Who needs evidence when you have opinions. :lol:



Apparently everyone who bought in the Russian narrative.


If it's not from RT it's not a legit source on the Russia investigation. :lol: You're good for a laugh VM, I'll give you that much.



Fact: There still remains no evidence of Russia collusion. Why do you resort to snarky comments when you have no argument? (I love rhetorical questions.)


Trumps people frantically denying they had met with the Russians, even though evidence shows that they had, says there's something they don't want getting out in relation to the Russians.



Still doesn't prove collusion. And there still is no proof that Russia had anything to do with swaying the election in Trump's favor.


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21 Feb 2019, 12:30 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
I think we should worry more about the disinformation coming out of our own corrupt media than other countries.

The new McCarthyism continues!


Who needs evidence when you have opinions. :lol:



Apparently everyone who bought in the Russian narrative.


If it's not from RT it's not a legit source on the Russia investigation. :lol: You're good for a laugh VM, I'll give you that much.



Fact: There still remains no evidence of Russia collusion. Why do you resort to snarky comments when you have no argument? (I love rhetorical questions.)


Trumps people frantically denying they had met with the Russians, even though evidence shows that they had, says there's something they don't want getting out in relation to the Russians.


That continual notion doesn't eliminate the the fact that there still remains no evidence of Russia collusion.



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21 Feb 2019, 12:39 am

Why try denying the contact if there wasn't some deal struck?


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21 Feb 2019, 12:45 am

From the article in the OP:

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“Moderates and centrists and Democratic candidates still don’t understand what happened in 2016, and they didn’t realize, like Hillary Clinton, that she wasn’t just running a presidential campaign, she was involved in a global information war,” Horvath said. “Democratic candidates and presidential candidates in the center and on the right who don’t understand that aren’t just going to have a difficult campaign, they’re going to allow their campaign to be an unwitting amplifier of someone else’s attempts to further divide Americans.”


This is the main problem in my opinion. Average people see what just looks like an interesting quote or a clever meme, something that confirms their own biases and makes what they think is a good point. It takes less than a minute to re-post or re-tweet. No thought given to whose agenda you might be furthering or whether the information you're spreading is actually based in fact.



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21 Feb 2019, 12:49 am

VegetableMan wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
I think we should worry more about the disinformation coming out of our own corrupt media than other countries.

The new McCarthyism continues!


Who needs evidence when you have opinions. :lol:



Apparently everyone who bought in the Russian narrative.


If it's not from RT it's not a legit source on the Russia investigation. :lol: You're good for a laugh VM, I'll give you that much.



Fact: There still remains no evidence of Russia collusion. Why do you resort to snarky comments when you have no argument? (I love rhetorical questions.)


There is an FBI investigation into the president being compromised by Russia and a threat to national security because of that. How is that no evidence? There is an investigation going on in your senate or congress or whatever it's called, where you just voted in a bunch of democrats, in which they are currently gathering evidence about potential Russian collusion. Telling me I have no arguments in a thread I created that contains in the OP evidence about Russia interfering further in your election process and in which you are providing nothing but your own unsupported opinions is rich in irony, and I enjoy irony so thank you for that.



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21 Feb 2019, 12:51 am

VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
I think we should worry more about the disinformation coming out of our own corrupt media than other countries.

The new McCarthyism continues!


Who needs evidence when you have opinions. :lol:



Apparently everyone who bought in the Russian narrative.


If it's not from RT it's not a legit source on the Russia investigation. :lol: You're good for a laugh VM, I'll give you that much.



Fact: There still remains no evidence of Russia collusion. Why do you resort to snarky comments when you have no argument? (I love rhetorical questions.)


Trumps people frantically denying they had met with the Russians, even though evidence shows that they had, says there's something they don't want getting out in relation to the Russians.



Still doesn't prove collusion. And there still is no proof that Russia had anything to do with swaying the election in Trump's favor.


You didn't ask for proof, you asked for evidence, and he provided some. Stop moving the goalposts, its a disingenuous way to argue your point.



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21 Feb 2019, 12:52 am

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
I think we should worry more about the disinformation coming out of our own corrupt media than other countries.

The new McCarthyism continues!


Who needs evidence when you have opinions. :lol:



Apparently everyone who bought in the Russian narrative.


If it's not from RT it's not a legit source on the Russia investigation. :lol: You're good for a laugh VM, I'll give you that much.



Fact: There still remains no evidence of Russia collusion. Why do you resort to snarky comments when you have no argument? (I love rhetorical questions.)


Trumps people frantically denying they had met with the Russians, even though evidence shows that they had, says there's something they don't want getting out in relation to the Russians.



Still doesn't prove collusion. And there still is no proof that Russia had anything to do with swaying the election in Trump's favor.


You didn't ask for proof, you asked for evidence, and he provided some. Stop moving the goalposts, its a disingenuous way to argue your point.



What evidence was that?


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