GOP Rep Gohmert introduces bill to ban the Democratic Party
GOP Rep. Louie Gohmert introduces bill to ban the Democratic Party for “supporting” Confederacy
Gohmert, who has defended Confederate statues, says Democrats' history is “filled with racism and hatred”
https://www.salon.com/2020/07/24/gop-rep-louie-gohmert-introduces-bill-to-ban-the-democratic-party-for-supporting-confederacy/
Gohmert, who joined more than 100 House Republicans to unsuccessfully oppose a resolution that would remove Confederate statues from the Capitol on Wednesday, responded to the defeat by introducing a resolution to ban organizations and political groups which historically supported slavery and Confederate states.
That list includes the Democratic Party, according to Gohmert. However, he did not mention that 72 Republicans who joined every Democrat in the House to vote to remove the Confederate statues.
While Democrats were for decades the preferred party of defenders of slavery and segregation in the South, Gohmert's claims ignore the fact that the South overwhelmingly rejected the Democratic Party after President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act in the 1960s, switching in droves to the Republican Party. In contrast to the Democratic Party, leaders in the GOP continue to support the legacy of the Confederacy to this day.
"Instead of canceling our culture, it's time to #CancelDemocrats," Gohmert said in an op-ed he published at Breitbart, an outlet which the Southern Poverty Law Center describes as a platform for the "white nationalist 'alt-right.'"
"A great portion of the history of the Democratic Party is filled with racism and hatred," Gohmert said in a statement. "Since people are demanding we rid ourselves of the entities, symbols and reminders of the repugnant aspects of our past, then the time has come for Democrats to acknowledge their party's loathsome and bigoted past, and consider changing their party name to something that isn't so blatantly and offensively tied to slavery, Jim Crow, discrimination and the Ku Klux Klan."
Gohmert, who made it clear in his statement that the move was entirely intended to troll Democrats in response to the vote, also called on Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., to remove "any item" that names Democrats or other parties which "supported slavery or the Confederacy."
"To avoid triggering innocent bystanders by the racist past of the Democratic Party, I would suggest they change their name," he said. "That is the standard to which they are holding everyone else, so the name change needs to occur."
The resolution is co-sponsored by Reps. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz., Andy Harris, R-Md., Jody Hice, R-Ga., and Randy Weber, R-Tex.
Gohmert's comments came after numerous Black Democrats spoke passionately about the need to set the record straight on the racist history of the Confederacy:
"For those of us who are sons of the South, those of us who have endured hardship, discrimination and a lot of things that are very difficult to even talk about, for this moment in time where we are today, where we are going to start the process of healing and setting the record straight as it relates to the real history of this country, it is fitting and proper that those individuals who fought to keep many of our ancestors enslaved should not have to be recognized in a place where people who do good expect to be recognized," said Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss.
Gohmert complained in the Breitbart op-ed that Democrats were trying to "shift blame onto Republicans" for the country's history of systemic racism and demanded the party "divest themselves of their name."
Though Gohmert has long been on the fringes of the Republican Party, his sentiment has been echoed by mainstream Republicans. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., argued last month that the Democratic Party should "change" its name to leave behind its historic ties to racist policies.
"This is a very bad argument. It fundamentally ignores the way that both political parties and history actually work," wrote Michael Austin, a professor who dug into the nation's political history in his book "We Must Not Be Enemies." "Today's Republicans and Democrats have very little in common with Democrats and Republicans in 1860, or even in 1936. It makes no sense for anyone to give credit, or blame, to any modern party for anything that happened in the Civil War . . . The fact that the names remain the same has everything to do with branding and nothing to do with any kind of coherent ideology that anybody alive can take the credit, or the blame, for having held in the past."
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Ah yes, just ask any democrat, and they will categorically deny that theirs was ever the party of slavery and Jim Crow. Not to mention that they will deny that any racism has remained in the party after the civil rights act /sarcasm
(Sad disclaimer that there are absolutely a small minority of wide-eyed ignorant Democrats who actually manage to think that last one is true. Still smaller than the number of Republicans who think they are owed black voters' support for positions they held 60 years ago)
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Then the ONLY party that will be allowed to field candidates will be the Republicans.
Only 1 candidate for every elected office ... all from the same party.
This is how most dictatorships begin.
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Only 1 candidate for every elected office ... all from the same party.
This is how most dictatorships begin.
And here I had been hearing that Democrats were the ones who wanted to criminalize dissent. Go figure.
Thankfully there's no chance this will pass. It's just the legislative equivalent of a pouting hissy fit.
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it makes me think they're compensating.
It was in fact conservative southern Democrats who had been the party of slavery and Jim Crow. That all changed when northern Democrats and Republicans had joined together for civil rights in the sixties. That was when white southern Democrats switched parties when the GOP under Nixon then Reagan began attracting them by promoting subtle but unmissable racism, and northern liberal Republicans switched to being Democrats.
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it makes me think they're compensating.
Them actually talking about racism probably helps them to win over voters who actually suffer because of racism. Hence the overwhelming whiteness of the republican electorate.
Southern former democrats are one of Republicans' most reliable supporters, and they can't risk alienating them by treating racism like a serious issue. They have to play up the white victimhood angle and use right-wing dog whistles to make it clear whose side they're on.
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it makes me think they're compensating.
It was in fact conservative southern Democrats who had been the party of slavery and Jim Crow. That all changed when northern Democrats and Republicans had joined together for civil rights in the sixties. That was when white southern Democrats switched parties when the GOP under Nixon then Reagan began attracting them by promoting subtle but unmissable racism, and northern liberal Republicans switched to being Democrats.
And yet I keep running into some Trump troll who says that was all debunked where only a few switched sides and nothing else. Can you debunk the debunker?
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I'm wondering if I can sue the GOP for misappropriation of the name of the party of Lincoln (as a descendant of some of the founders of the party). The folks who hid runaway slaves and helped them get to Canada, and later fought the Civil War to end slavery are probably spinning in their graves at several thousand RPM about now.
it makes me think they're compensating.
It was in fact conservative southern Democrats who had been the party of slavery and Jim Crow. That all changed when northern Democrats and Republicans had joined together for civil rights in the sixties. That was when white southern Democrats switched parties when the GOP under Nixon then Reagan began attracting them by promoting subtle but unmissable racism, and northern liberal Republicans switched to being Democrats.
And yet I keep running into some Trump troll who says that was all debunked where only a few switched sides and nothing else. Can you debunk the debunker?
Trumpian trolls exist to be debunked. Did he provide any sources for these claims? There are dozens of examples of Democratic politicians turning coat during or after the Civil Rights movement of the 60s.
Strom Thurmond (SC, Senate) is the big example, having switched in 1964 to the Republicans after the passage of the Civil Rights Act. An aggressive segregationist, Thurmond left the democrats because he saw them as having "abandoned the people".
Albert Watson (also SC, HoR) switched around the same time, running for SC governor on an openly segregationist platform in 1970 as a Republican. He would be the first Republican representative to congress for his state since Reconstruction.
Then-future Florida governor Claude R Kirk switched to be Republican in 1960, when the Civil Rights movement was really picking up steam--becoming the first Republican governor since (you guessed it) Reconstruction. He would maintain a pro-segregation platform after being elected governor in 1966.
more examples can be found here (wikipedia warning): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_party_switchers_in_the_United_States#1960%E2%80%931969
As for the average Dixiecrat voter, if you want to see their partisan shift, just take a look at presidential and congressional election maps since ~1964. Barry Goldwater won several deep south states in the 1964 presidential election bc of dixiecrat electoral revolt against the Johnson administration. Goldwater integrated segregationist rhetoric into Republicans' small government ideology by framing federal civil rights legislation as an overreach of federal power (morality be damned!). Racist former democrat George Wallace won many other deep south states in 1968 running as a segregationist independent for president. Since then, the only democratic presidential candidates to win more than a couple southern states were Jimmy Carter in '76 and Bill Clinton in the '90s, partially because they were southerners themselves (Georgian and Arkansan respectively).
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it makes me think they're compensating.
It was in fact conservative southern Democrats who had been the party of slavery and Jim Crow. That all changed when northern Democrats and Republicans had joined together for civil rights in the sixties. That was when white southern Democrats switched parties when the GOP under Nixon then Reagan began attracting them by promoting subtle but unmissable racism, and northern liberal Republicans switched to being Democrats.
And yet I keep running into some Trump troll who says that was all debunked where only a few switched sides and nothing else. Can you debunk the debunker?
If you want to call almost every white southern conservative in the country who has since become Republicans "only a few," then he can keep spewing that crap, I guess.
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^the shorter, blunter way of saying what I'm getting at.
How about we stop acting like their being Democrats was the problem, and start acting like it was the fact that they were conservatives was the problem? They abandoned the Democrats when Democrats stopped upholding Jim Crow. They embraced change, and southern conservatives resented them for that. They still resent Democrats for that.
Southern conservatives have not fundamentally changed. They've just retreated. They'll retreat from the positions they have today too, just give it time. Like they retreated from segregation, interracial marriage, gay marriage, etc.
They just sweep these defeats under the rug and assert that their "views have evolved".
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^the shorter, blunter way of saying what I'm getting at.
How about we stop acting like their being Democrats was the problem, and start acting like it was the fact that they were conservatives was the problem? They abandoned the Democrats when Democrats stopped upholding Jim Crow. They embraced change, and southern conservatives resented them for that. They still resent Democrats for that.
Southern conservatives have not fundamentally changed. They've just retreated. They'll retreat from the positions they have today too, just give it time. Like they retreated from segregation, interracial marriage, gay marriage, etc.
They just sweep these defeats under the rug and assert that their "views have evolved".
Absolutely.
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