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Exactly, and that's what republicans fight for, free market and capatilism aND freedom in general, the freedom to guide your own life. Without them, the left would go wild with regulation and controlling people. There are good people on both sides and there are horrible people on both sides.

You have the bad people on both sides also, corporations lobbying for the left and the right. I'm more of an in the middle kinda guy. We need regulations and freedoms. I have ligetimate distrust for the millionaires and billionairea on the left because they claim to want to help people yet under pay them. Same goes for the right. I don't trust socialism because all it ever seems to do is protect the status of very wealthy people, same can be said for the right, which is why we need a balance to prevent from straying toO far in either direction.

Sure they helped millions by taking healthcare away from and fining millions. It's called robbing Peter to pay Paul.

How did they end up "accidentally" fining people hundreds of dollars per year because they couldn't afford obamacare?

I have a hard time believing all the fat cat elite democrat senators are any better then the rest of the elite. I think you have a bit of wool pulled over your eyes.

That's what I say, how is fining people that are already too poor helping them, it damn sure didn't help me or a lot of people I knew. If they wanted to help people, perhaps they could had not made it mandatory. That sh***y president had more of a negative impact on me personally than any other president I lived through. It's sad that I fell for all that change crap he talked about, there was change alright, change for the worse. Trump is doing way better of a job than obamination.

Hell, I'm hoping he wins in 2020, I may even vote for him. (I normally don't vote)

I actually had to pay the fine too, $1500 . It would have doubled had I not got it by the 3rd year, $3000, way to help the poor! And guess what, I eventually had the crapy insurance and couldn't afford to goto the doctor, why is that Crimadella? O yea, because I'm poor!

I knew the fines were steep, but I had no idea they were that steep. That's absolutely outrageous.

There needs to be more people who have experienced what you have in the forefront to expose this.

I'd like to see the saintly democrat politicians send you a letter of apology and a refund of the thousands of dollars they stole from you.

Then just who am I supposed to trust? The Republicans, who have proven they are believers in social the Darwinism/prosperity gospel? Or in a dirty businessman like Trump who only lives to feed his own inflated ego? While there are plenty of corrupt Democrats in congress, I still believe many others are honest about wanting to help the underdog. Guys like the mayor of Indianapolis, who speaks several languages, is a Rhode's scholar, is a concert pianist, and is 37, meaning it's unlikely he's going to croak in office, or develop dementia. Your side is just waiting to rip him apart simply because he's openly gay.

Yea. I didn't do it the first year, they let people 'slide' on the first year. Got hit with the 1500$ the second year and learned that it would double on the third year so I had to get it. Thankfully I made a job change though, health insurance was somewhat free, I was a city employee. I still couldn't go to the doctor though, poor people can't afford to take off of work, we need the hours, that and my boss was an as*hole anyway. I finally had no option but to goto the doctor because all my phobias got so bad, and my stomach and neck. The insurance didn't cover much either, which made it even more useless. The only thing is was good for was standard doctor visits. I had to have MRI of my neck, 3 pinched nerves, two bulging dics and degeneration. I had to pay for most of the MRI, I had a lot of tests done before that which finally covered my deductible, the best I can remeber it was between 1200 and 2000 before they would actually cover anything outside of regular doctor visits. Then they were horrible on medication, they wanted to put me on some v word medication for add, I got a on month free coupon from the doctor, it worked really good and I was improving, then for my refill, the med was 340 and they would only pay 40 bucks of it so I had to switch to Adderall which wasn't any wear near as good. The next year, I had been having chronic gastritis and they couldn't figure out why, so I got sent to a gastrologist , they cover a good bit of the visits, 200 dollar visit and I just paid like 40. But they had to put a cam down my throat and do a biopsy, it's actually 3 itis condictions, esophagitis, gastritis and something else. They found nothing except inflammation and the walls of everything was really bright red and irratated . That cost me $2800 and they paid nothing, and I didn't even get an answer of why. That broke me, so I've just had to deal with it and I still got it. It's been getting worse, I've had gastritis and the others for 4 years now and it never goes away. Some days it hurts less, but some days it's so bad I can hardly take it. It's been really bad the last few days. My neck is getting worse too, I have a lot of issues with my neck, upper back and lower back and left hip. I got a partial diagnosis for EDS, musculoskeletal hypermobility kind, I was supposed to go to a neck and back doctor but I don't have the money to do that either. Now everything in combination has left me unable to work. My brother is trying to help me get on SSI now though, because my mom didn't have the time and she has it pretty rough too. I got an appointment next Friday at the SS office. I can't wait to get some meds to help with the pain, sadly the whole war on chronic pain patients is going to screw me over on that also. It makes me really hate my life, I feel I want get any relief until I die.

Trump is going to try to do the best he can because of his ego, he wishes to go down as the best possible president as he can so his fame will last. Plus he want to definitely out do his nemesis, oboma. He want to be remembered as a good president, that's what is going to motivate him to do the best that he thinks he can do. I think he is doing a pretty good job. I would change some things, but everyone has their own ideas for what would help us, I think his nationalism qualities are a benifit because he wants the country to be strong and actually export some things rather than draining the economy by doing mostly imports. He dropped taxes on the rich to bring companies back to the US and from what I've seen it is helping. He also help companies out and small business, buy American hire American deal is preventing some of the disaster of China dumping cheap steel in our country cause our steel companies to go out of business, I say that's really good, others don't see it, they think free market means we should free market ourselves out of a nation, that's what happens when your imports greatly exceed your exports. That's what happens when you try to fairly compete with a country in the free market which pushes slave labor, our companies can't push slave wages like China, so they can easily put our companies out of business.

If bringing companies back to America were to be done by lowering their taxes, then there should be strings attached, that if they don't come back and hire Americans with good wages and benefits, then they have to pay the tax cut back with interest.
Trump wants to overshadow Obama, but he doesn't have the brains, the ability, or the honesty.

I think he can, he has the brains to get help from others. The economy is doing good, a lot of the middle class is gaining in wages, the stock market is doing good and started doing good as he went into office. I feel optimistic, at least as optomistic as I can. He is doing good, I think we need that wall, especially now, because of the last saying we need open borders and have sanctuary cites illegal migration is exploding, just the other day they caught 3700 trying to criss the border. We are up to like 150 thousand for this year and the predicted total they are estimating to be 250 thousand for 2019 alone. That is directly the result of all these people claiming we should have open borders and that is ridiculous. Open borders means tons of undocumented people in our country, draining our welfare funds that are there for 'our' poor that need help. No, they don't get welfare, when they have a kid here they do get welfare. It's estimated they pay about 4 billion in taxes while draining 65 billion.

I see no evidence that that's his intent.

I know you don't, you hate him too much, that can fog judgement. That and all the lies that the left wing media constantly pumps out. I hope he wins again so we get a full 8 years of a president that is trying to help us and the only one in a long time that wasn't on Goldman Sachs payroll, meaning he didn't take donations from them. That's why most politicians on both sides do not like him, because he isn't part of the standard corrupt lefties or righties, that's why I have the gut feeling that he is good for the country. We don't have a dictatorship, so at the most he will only have one more term, I bet you if he gets it he will continue to do things that actually looks out for our country. I know you don't think so, but watch what I say, if he wins again things will continue to get better. Unemployment is going down, wages are going up, the stock market is going up, factories are going up, I feel good about it, we will see as the future comes to be

No, Trump's not under the control of Goldman/Sachs, he's beholden to loony incompetents like Betty DeVos, and her brother, Erik Prince, and his Goddamn Evangelical Council. The loony right has their claws in him, and as he has no real deeply held ideals, they fill his head with their lunacy. If I hate him,that's a big part of it.

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I forgot about this one. He did something to help our vets also. If the VA can't get to them in proper time, which happens often, they can go to a private doctor and the government will pay the bill.

Well I don't hate him, he seems to be doing a lot of good from what I can see.

A broken clock is right twice a day, and even Hitler realized smoking caused cancer before anyone else did.

So if he did put forth a good healthcare plan that's the way you would look at it.