Trump: Illegal Immigrants Released to Sanctuary Cities

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There existed the Irish Problem, the Italian Problem, the Jewish Problem, the Chinese Problem, etc......this has been going on since immigration to this country began.

Now....it's those Central Americans and Mexicans!

Of course, this is not a new phenomenon.

... and Boston, and Charleston, and Atlanta, and ... just about any place there was a need for cheap labor and no "Irish Need Not Apply" signs. The following data are from the Irish Genealogy website:

... when famine was raging in Ireland, Irish immigration to America came from two directions: by transatlantic voyage to the East Coast Ports (primarily Boston and New York) or by land or sea from Canada, then called British North America. Ireland was also part of Britain, and fares to Canada were cheaper than fares to the USA, especially after 1847. Those that survived the journey often had just one thought on their minds: to be free of British oppression. While many chose to settle in Canada, substantially more managed to find the physical and financial resources to reach America ... The data reveals that immigration to New York had been the preference for nearly half a million (483,000) Irish-born settlers. Of these, 190,000 were in New York City. More than a quarter of a million (260,000) had settled in Massachusetts, chiefly in Boston, while Illinois also had a sizable population of 124,000 of which 79,000 were in Chicago.

Cities are already badly overcrowded these days. The more people coming in the more overcrowded they're going to get. Even the area I live in which used to be the sticks is horribly overcrowded. The main roads and freeways in what used to be a rural county are severely congested. There's a severe housing shortage. People are already on long waiting lists for housing. There are very few for rent or for sale signs around and they don't stay up very long. We just made it in before the big crunch when rent and house costs went through the roof.

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Exactly this. The sanctuary cities have to put up or shut up.

Yep....all those places.

But the Irish eventually assimilated into the American Fabric......then the Jews, Italians, etc. of the early 20th century. Then the Puerto Ricans and people from other Hispanic lands (though, of course, Puerto Ricans were already Americans). Then people from the southern Caribbean Basin......most of those people desired the American Dream.

That's the classical immigrant experience. And it is continuing today. First, they are huddled in overcrowded conditions. Then the sons and daughters graduate school, and get good jobs, because the parents drummed into them the importance of an education. Then they moved to the suburbs to live out that "American Dream." Of course, not all "made it. But many did.

"I Call."

I've lived amongst immigrants virtually all my life.

I can get used to a few more....

Many of them, if they come to New York, will be taken care of by their families. It'll become the families' problem.

Of course, there will be problems. Just like in the old days.

I think the difference is the Central Americans and Mexicans problem started back in the 70's and has been steadily getting worse. And now there's the gigantic caravans influx. That's not what happened with the others. There was an influx that lasted a certain period of time and then subsided. This one has been growing exponentially for decades.

It was pretty "caravan-like" back in the early 1900s----make no mistake about that.....

But this isn't the 1900's. Or the early 20th century. All those people are long dead and times have changed considerably. Ellis Island shut down a long time ago, before you were born.

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Yes. While we may cite examples from history, that in no way implies that those events are still extant in our time. However, I fear that some of the conditions of those times may be seen again in this time; thus I fear a resurgence of hatred toward foreigners, especially immigrants who enter this country with no skills, no money, and no vested interest in supporting this country in mind, body and spirit.

From a personal standpoint, I don't care how many more people enter the US to live, it doesn't affect my personal bubble whatsoever. But I don't think the 'what about way back when, what about the statue of liberty and ellis island?' argument is a realistic comparison to what's going on in 2019.

One big difference between now and the early 1900s is there was no welfare state in the early 1900s. Entitlement payments of Medicare, Medicaid, and social security are three of the four largest expenditures of the government (military spending is the 4th and ranks I believe 3rd among that group). None of these programs existed in the 1900s and the U.S. "peacetime" deficit and debt spending is historically high. (Note: I say "peacetime," because while fighting two wars right now we are not committing the majority of the countries resources to those wars like say when world war II or the Civil War was being waged)

Always be ready to back up your claims.

What the world needs now is a young really large booming country that needs to be filled up.

That used to be what the US was, but it just isn't any longer.