17 Aug 2019, 10:52 pm
This is what an anti-fascist freedom fighter looks like.
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17 Aug 2019, 10:52 pm
Persephone29 wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
What is it about Portland in particular that makes it the big battleground for these groups?
I think they were true Hippies. California is expensive, over populated and well, "materialistic." Places like Oregon could still offer West Coast ideals, but also room. People can still live off the grid there, commune with nature, etc... Granted, I don't think Antifa is packed with Hippies, but these are the grandchildren of the Hippies. So, way out there art students, pot cultivators and smokers, live and let livers (which is fine). Only they don't truly espouse that belief. They decide who lives and let live. They are what they hate, but in their infinite wisdom they believe that they know the way, so their fascist behaviors are warranted.
My opinion only, take it or leave it.
You're confusing all of California with Los Angeles and their 'liberal elitist'.
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♧♤17 Aug 2019, 10:54 pm
And this is what fascists look like — the two terrorist wings of the Democrat party, then and now.
17 Aug 2019, 10:55 pm
Darmok wrote:
This is what an anti-fascist freedom fighter looks like.
I agree. We have no clue how good we have it.
17 Aug 2019, 11:02 pm
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17 Aug 2019, 11:05 pm
Persephone29 wrote:
Darmok wrote:
This is what an anti-fascist freedom fighter looks like.
I agree. We have no clue how good we have it.
It could be a lot better if we fixed our overcrowded prisons and our absurdly expensive health care and quit trying to strip away the rights of women and minorities.
And there are hippies in Georgia, believe it or not. Atlanta is very big on Civil Rights and there's a LOT of nature here which hippies love. My mom is pretty hippyish herself.
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17 Aug 2019, 11:07 pm
Darmok wrote:
And this is what fascists look like — the two terrorist wings of the Democrat party, then and now.
By that thinking, the Klan became the terrorist wing of the GOP during the Nixon and Reagan years when that group rejected the pro-civil rights plank of the Democrats.
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18 Aug 2019, 10:36 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
America exports fascism
Uh huh.
You'd know that if you'd read or listened to Chomsky over the years. They have done it in South America mainly.
Yes, I am well aware of all that. That was mostly during the Cold War when the political establishment figured right wing governments would clamp down on communism, and in doing so also stunted the growth of democracy.
What I was referring to was America's war against fascism in WWII. And that value is being rediscovered with groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter.
Bulls**t. Communism was the excuse not that it excuses murdering Priests and Union leaders by using Himmler style death squads. They didn't go to fight fascism, they reinstated the Nazi collaborators in Italy and installed a Nazi in North Africa. Your fairytale version of history is just garbage. They also started bringing Nazis to work for them from 1945
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
The US supported neo Nazis in Ukraine, So it has nothing to do with Communism.
Antifa are just a bunch of communist thugs.
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18 Aug 2019, 5:51 pm
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
America exports fascism
Uh huh.
You'd know that if you'd read or listened to Chomsky over the years. They have done it in South America mainly.
Yes, I am well aware of all that. That was mostly during the Cold War when the political establishment figured right wing governments would clamp down on communism, and in doing so also stunted the growth of democracy.
What I was referring to was America's war against fascism in WWII. And that value is being rediscovered with groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter.
Bulls**t. Communism was the excuse not that it excuses murdering Priests and Union leaders by using Himmler style death squads. They didn't go to fight fascism, they reinstated the Nazi collaborators in Italy and installed a Nazi in North Africa. Your fairytale version of history is just garbage. They also started bringing Nazis to work for them from 1945
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
The US supported neo Nazis in Ukraine, So it has nothing to do with Communism.
Antifa are just a bunch of communist thugs.
Yes, it was about communism, as Cold War fears had grown to hysteria.
Installing fascists in Italy after the war was not just the idea of the United States, but all the western Allies, including your country and the Papacy.
The Nazi element in Ukraine is so exaggerated by you guys on the right. That was coming from your boss, Putin, as propaganda.
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19 Aug 2019, 11:22 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
America exports fascism
Uh huh.
You'd know that if you'd read or listened to Chomsky over the years. They have done it in South America mainly.
Yes, I am well aware of all that. That was mostly during the Cold War when the political establishment figured right wing governments would clamp down on communism, and in doing so also stunted the growth of democracy.
What I was referring to was America's war against fascism in WWII. And that value is being rediscovered with groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter.
Bulls**t. Communism was the excuse not that it excuses murdering Priests and Union leaders by using Himmler style death squads. They didn't go to fight fascism, they reinstated the Nazi collaborators in Italy and installed a Nazi in North Africa. Your fairytale version of history is just garbage. They also started bringing Nazis to work for them from 1945
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
The US supported neo Nazis in Ukraine, So it has nothing to do with Communism.
Antifa are just a bunch of communist thugs.
Yes, it was about communism, as Cold War fears had grown to hysteria.
Installing fascists in Italy after the war was not just the idea of the United States, but all the western Allies, including your country and the Papacy.
The Nazi element in Ukraine is so exaggerated by you guys on the right. That was coming from your boss, Putin, as propaganda.
Nothing to do with communism, as I just told you the US was supporting Nazis before the cold war and neo Nazis during and after. Even if your fantasies and lies about communism were true, that still would not justify supporting neo Nazi death squads. And it had nothing to do with communism, it's just the US wants to control the world and especially South America.
I'm talking about during the war, it was the first thing the US did.
My boss? Your fantasies are hilarious. It's you defending Nazis, neo Nazis and their murderous tactics.
