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30 Sep 2019, 2:20 am

Trump warns of "big consequences" for his accusers:

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... ences?amp=

Trump is just showing how much of a criminal he really is.


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30 Sep 2019, 3:53 am

Aren't there usually big consequences if it gets found out that underhanded dealings have been done? Isn't it being said that Trump is in for big consequences if he is found to be involved in underhanded dealings? Should that be viewed as trying to intimidate and threaten him? Or does it only go one way?



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30 Sep 2019, 4:56 am

EzraS wrote:
Aren't there usually big consequences if it gets found out that underhanded dealings have been done? Isn't it being said that Trump is in for big consequences if he is found to be involved in underhanded dealings? Should that be viewed as trying to intimidate and threaten him? Or does it only go one way?



It only goes one way.

The Obummer administration did whatever it wanted, but because it was done in the name of 'progressivism' they all got a pass. They are accusing Trump of everything they were guilty of.


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30 Sep 2019, 5:04 am

One point .. the whistle blower was not a witness.


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30 Sep 2019, 5:26 am

Persephone29 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aren't there usually big consequences if it gets found out that underhanded dealings have been done? Isn't it being said that Trump is in for big consequences if he is found to be involved in underhanded dealings? Should that be viewed as trying to intimidate and threaten him? Or does it only go one way?



It only goes one way.

The Obummer administration did whatever it wanted, but because it was done in the name of 'progressivism' they all got a pass. They are accusing Trump of everything they were guilty of.


I've heard conservatives say that about Obama all the time, but I have yet to see any evidence supporting any of that.


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30 Sep 2019, 6:05 am

EzraS wrote:
Aren't there usually big consequences if it gets found out that underhanded dealings have been done? Isn't it being said that Trump is in for big consequences if he is found to be involved in underhanded dealings? Should that be viewed as trying to intimidate and threaten him? Or does it only go one way?


This would be like saying it would be OK for a mob boss to threaten a witness because if the witness got the truth out, then the mob boss would go to jail. But that's pretty much what Trump is, or wants to be, anyway. After all, I know Trump has used the term "rat" in the past to refer to people who talk to law enforcement:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-c ... d=59862349

The way Trump talks, as well as the innuendos he uses, it's just like how a mob boss talks. And if a mob boss is stupid enough to publicly intimidate a witness, then the mob boss goes down.


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30 Sep 2019, 6:17 am

the GOP will see to it that not only will he escape any consequences, he will continue to get rewarded for his ill deeds.



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30 Sep 2019, 6:27 am

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the GOP will see to it that not only will he escape any consequences, he will continue to get rewarded for his ill deeds.


Well, here's to hoping the GOP proves you wrong.


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30 Sep 2019, 6:28 am

the worst that could possibly happen to the big fool is that the senate votes to censure him. big@$$ed deal. business as usual after perfunctory hand slap.



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30 Sep 2019, 6:49 am

beneficii wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aren't there usually big consequences if it gets found out that underhanded dealings have been done? Isn't it being said that Trump is in for big consequences if he is found to be involved in underhanded dealings? Should that be viewed as trying to intimidate and threaten him? Or does it only go one way?


This would be like saying it would be OK for a mob boss to threaten a witness because if the witness got the truth out, then the mob boss would go to jail. But that's pretty much what Trump is, or wants to be, anyway. After all, I know Trump has used the term "rat" in the past to refer to people who talk to law enforcement:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-c ... d=59862349

The way Trump talks, as well as the innuendos he uses, it's just like how a mob boss talks. And if a mob boss is stupid enough to publicly intimidate a witness, then the mob boss goes down.


That's obviously what I did not say. I said if a witness is found to be lying then there are big consequences. And it seems to me that several of the witnesses who have testified against Trump had already experienced big consequences for committing perjury.



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30 Sep 2019, 7:31 am

EzraS wrote:
beneficii wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aren't there usually big consequences if it gets found out that underhanded dealings have been done? Isn't it being said that Trump is in for big consequences if he is found to be involved in underhanded dealings? Should that be viewed as trying to intimidate and threaten him? Or does it only go one way?


This would be like saying it would be OK for a mob boss to threaten a witness because if the witness got the truth out, then the mob boss would go to jail. But that's pretty much what Trump is, or wants to be, anyway. After all, I know Trump has used the term "rat" in the past to refer to people who talk to law enforcement:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-c ... d=59862349

The way Trump talks, as well as the innuendos he uses, it's just like how a mob boss talks. And if a mob boss is stupid enough to publicly intimidate a witness, then the mob boss goes down.


That's obviously what I did not say. I said if a witness is found to be lying then there are big consequences. And it seems to me that several of the witnesses who have testified against Trump had already experienced big consequences for committing perjury.


The Inspector General said the complaint was "credible" and "urgent". He did not say that the whistleblower or other witnesses perjured themselves. You're making that up.

And none of the witnesses have testified yet, beyond the whistleblower complaint.


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30 Sep 2019, 7:38 am

The whistleblower is now fearing for their safety. It looks like it's from Trump's earlier statement:

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“I want to know who’s the person who gave the whistle-blower the information because that’s close to a spy,” Trump said. “You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? With spies and treason, right? We used to handle them a little differently than we do now.”

Bakaj said the indirect nature of Trump’s comment in referring to the person who fed the whistleblower the information “does nothing to assuage our concerns for our client’s safety”. The lawyer added that individuals were also offering $50,000 rewards for information that would out the intelligence official.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... mpeachment


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30 Sep 2019, 7:58 am

beneficii wrote:
EzraS wrote:
beneficii wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aren't there usually big consequences if it gets found out that underhanded dealings have been done? Isn't it being said that Trump is in for big consequences if he is found to be involved in underhanded dealings? Should that be viewed as trying to intimidate and threaten him? Or does it only go one way?


This would be like saying it would be OK for a mob boss to threaten a witness because if the witness got the truth out, then the mob boss would go to jail. But that's pretty much what Trump is, or wants to be, anyway. After all, I know Trump has used the term "rat" in the past to refer to people who talk to law enforcement:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-c ... d=59862349

The way Trump talks, as well as the innuendos he uses, it's just like how a mob boss talks. And if a mob boss is stupid enough to publicly intimidate a witness, then the mob boss goes down.


That's obviously what I did not say. I said if a witness is found to be lying then there are big consequences. And it seems to me that several of the witnesses who have testified against Trump had already experienced big consequences for committing perjury.


The Inspector General said the complaint was "credible" and "urgent". He did not say that the whistleblower or other witnesses perjured themselves. You're making that up.

And none of the witnesses have testified yet, beyond the whistleblower complaint.


No I am not making up that previous witnesses against Trump have been convicted of perjury. What is it with you and Bill completely misreading my posts?



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30 Sep 2019, 9:55 am

EzraS wrote:
beneficii wrote:
EzraS wrote:
beneficii wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aren't there usually big consequences if it gets found out that underhanded dealings have been done? Isn't it being said that Trump is in for big consequences if he is found to be involved in underhanded dealings? Should that be viewed as trying to intimidate and threaten him? Or does it only go one way?


This would be like saying it would be OK for a mob boss to threaten a witness because if the witness got the truth out, then the mob boss would go to jail. But that's pretty much what Trump is, or wants to be, anyway. After all, I know Trump has used the term "rat" in the past to refer to people who talk to law enforcement:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-c ... d=59862349

The way Trump talks, as well as the innuendos he uses, it's just like how a mob boss talks. And if a mob boss is stupid enough to publicly intimidate a witness, then the mob boss goes down.


That's obviously what I did not say. I said if a witness is found to be lying then there are big consequences. And it seems to me that several of the witnesses who have testified against Trump had already experienced big consequences for committing perjury.


The Inspector General said the complaint was "credible" and "urgent". He did not say that the whistleblower or other witnesses perjured themselves. You're making that up.

And none of the witnesses have testified yet, beyond the whistleblower complaint.


No I am not making up that previous witnesses against Trump have been convicted of perjury. What is it with you and Bill completely misreading my posts?






...At least the implication of what you wrote seemed to be that they had perjured about Trump! I believe they did not. :x
Trump was threatening the whistle-blower, as he was, IIRC, calling the whistle-blower's source " treasonous " and alluding to executing them!
When the Presiddent says something like this, IT IS A THREAT. Because he is the President! 8O


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30 Sep 2019, 10:08 am

Chohen, Dean and others had already been convicted of perjury. Not knowing the identity of the whistleblower, I would not be surprised if he/she also had a similar record as that seems to be the pattern.



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ASS-P wrote:
EzraS wrote:
beneficii wrote:
EzraS wrote:
beneficii wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Aren't there usually big consequences if it gets found out that underhanded dealings have been done? Isn't it being said that Trump is in for big consequences if he is found to be involved in underhanded dealings? Should that be viewed as trying to intimidate and threaten him? Or does it only go one way?


This would be like saying it would be OK for a mob boss to threaten a witness because if the witness got the truth out, then the mob boss would go to jail. But that's pretty much what Trump is, or wants to be, anyway. After all, I know Trump has used the term "rat" in the past to refer to people who talk to law enforcement:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-c ... d=59862349

The way Trump talks, as well as the innuendos he uses, it's just like how a mob boss talks. And if a mob boss is stupid enough to publicly intimidate a witness, then the mob boss goes down.


That's obviously what I did not say. I said if a witness is found to be lying then there are big consequences. And it seems to me that several of the witnesses who have testified against Trump had already experienced big consequences for committing perjury.


The Inspector General said the complaint was "credible" and "urgent". He did not say that the whistleblower or other witnesses perjured themselves. You're making that up.

And none of the witnesses have testified yet, beyond the whistleblower complaint.


No I am not making up that previous witnesses against Trump have been convicted of perjury. What is it with you and Bill completely misreading my posts?






...At least the implication of what you wrote seemed to be that they had perjured about Trump! I believe they did not. :x
Trump was threatening the whistle-blower, as he was, IIRC, calling the whistle-blower's source " treasonous " and alluding to executing them!
When the Presiddent says something like this, IT IS A THREAT. Because he is the President! 8O






...I...I tried to add so.eso.ething that won't go up. I lost a draft. :cry:


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