Mother "obsessed " over child's autism kills her

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23 Oct 2019, 1:52 am

Mother who smothered daughter suffering ‘depressive disorder’, court told

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A mother suffocated her three-year-old daughter with a “Minnie Mouse” pillow while she was taking an afternoon nap after becoming “obsessed” with the child’s autism diagnosis, a jury has heard.

A consultant forensic psychiatrist told the murder trial that the defendant was suffering with “recurrent depressive disorder” at the time and fulfils the criteria for a special verdict of not guilty by reason of insanity.

In the days prior to the killing the defendant had carried out internet searches on suicide and mothers killing their autistic children. She had convinced herself her child had a more severe form of autism when the diagnosis was at the milder end of the spectrum.

The woman, who cannot be named by order of the court, has gone on trial having pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity to the murder of the three-year-old girl nearly two years ago.

Garda Declan Hartley agreed with prosecuting counsel Paul Murray SC that the girl was assessed for autism in a child-development centre in January 2018.

The therapist in the centre said the child scored at the borderline spectrum of autism.

Mr Murray read a statement from the woman’s husband to the court in which he said his wife had been googling autism and found a form of it called Pathological Demand Avoidance. “She immediately convinced herself that was what the child had,” said her husband.He added that the therapist had said their daughter was on the spectrum. “She had not completed her assessment, but at the very worse she had mild autism.”

The husband said he never blamed his wife for what happened to their child as he knew it had to be a psychiatric event .

The woman’s sister said in a statement that the accused became obsessed with autism and was “always” on the internet researching it.

In her Garda interviews, the defendant described the weeks before the killing as a “living nightmare” and said she felt “desperate”, “overwhelmed”, “in a panic” and “totally alone” after her child was found to be on the threshold with autism.

The court heard the woman say she intended her daughter to die.She had thought about going to the beach and drowning herself. The accused told gardaí she felt she did not have a choice but to complete the act in order for her other child to have a happy life.

“I wasn’t in the best place, I did love her very much. I just wanted the best for her and to be as happy as possible,” she told gardaí. Asked if she had something to say to her child, she replied: “I would say I’m so so sorry.”

In cross-examination, Garda Hartley agreed with defence counsel Patrick Gageby SC that the woman was a very good mother to her children and put them first.

Dr Sally Linehan, a consultant psychiatrist from the Central Mental Hospital, said the woman suffers from a “recurrent depressive disorder” which is a mental disorder and it had an element of psychosis at the time.

The woman’s mental health deteriorated when her child’s autism was diagnosed and she developed a conviction that she must kill her, said the witness. The woman did not know what she was doing was wrong and was unable to refrain from committing the act, she continued, adding that she was satisfied that the accused fulfils the criteria of not guilty by reason of insanity.

The trial continues on Wednesday.


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23 Oct 2019, 8:13 am

I wonder if anyone can persuade her to treat her depression using an Exit Bag and helium tank?



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23 Oct 2019, 10:08 am

The girl was never diagnosed as having autism.

"The therapist in the centre said the child scored at the borderline spectrum of autism".


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23 Oct 2019, 10:17 am

This is a case where a mother had a severely distorted view of the potential of her daughter. And....so what if her potential wasn't "optimal."

I'm on the fence about whether she should have been prosecuted for her daughter's murder in some way.



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23 Oct 2019, 10:22 am

Welp, I guess the mother's life is so much easier now that her child is dead. Oh wait, it's much harder now because she's a child MURDERER. :roll:



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23 Oct 2019, 10:41 am

I wonder how is it possible for someone's mental health to deteriorate to the point where they (allegedly) don't know that killing their child is wrong and can't fight the compulsion to do so without anybody else noticing? It's not like this woman lived in complete isolation with the child and she must have been "insane" for some time since this was a premeditated, non-spontaneous act.

I have a hard time believing people about how much they loved someone after they committed premeditated murder.


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23 Oct 2019, 10:45 am

[opinion=mine]

I think the Anti-Vaxxers and their scare-tactic propaganda are contributing factors to the mother's motivation.

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23 Oct 2019, 10:49 am

At the very least, the mother should have read about autism, and read blogs about families with autistic children, and watched vlogs of families with autistic children.....all of varying severity.

If I were a District Attorney, I would prosecute----but I would offer some sort of plea bargain. Some of the "punishment" involving becoming educated on autism.



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23 Oct 2019, 10:52 am

No. She murdered her child. Let the defense beg for a plea-bargain.

Then give the prosecution kudos if they don't laugh their butts off!



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23 Oct 2019, 11:04 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
At the very least, the mother should have read about autism, and read blogs about families with autistic children, and watched vlogs of families with autistic children.....all of varying severity.

She probably did.

However, her depression made her focus on the worst case outcome.

That's what depression is like.


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23 Oct 2019, 11:15 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
The girl was never diagnosed as having autism.

"The therapist in the centre said the child scored at the borderline spectrum of autism".


The husband said “ He added that the therapist had said their daughter was on the spectrum. “She had not completed her assessment, but at the very worse she had mild autism.”

It seems likely she would have been diagnosed had the assessment been completed.


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23 Oct 2019, 11:18 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
At the very least, the mother should have read about autism, and read blogs about families with autistic children, and watched vlogs of families with autistic children.....all of varying severity.

She probably did.

However, her depression made her focus on the worst case outcome.

That's what depression is like.

IMO it takes A LOT more than depression to make someone genuinly unable to understand killing your child is wrong. Depression can often lead to catastrophic thinking or suicide, but it's the first time I hear it can cause you to commit premeditated murder :?


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23 Oct 2019, 12:47 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
At the very least, the mother should have read about autism, and read blogs about families with autistic children, and watched vlogs of families with autistic children.....all of varying severity.

If I were a District Attorney, I would prosecute----but I would offer some sort of plea bargain. Some of the "punishment" involving becoming educated on autism.


Problem is that there is no in between on sane vs insane. A plea most likely will only work if arguing about intent. Besides, I am sure learning about autism along with other disorders will be mandatory if she goes to the psych ward instead of the joint.



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23 Oct 2019, 10:49 pm

I hate it when parents kill their children with autism or something else, then tries to justify it with having some sort of mental dysfunction. Most kill these kinds of children because they're terrible parents to begin with, and can't personally handle the job.


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25 Oct 2019, 1:55 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
I hate it when parents kill their children with autism or something else, then tries to justify it with having some sort of mental dysfunction. Most kill these kinds of children because they're terrible parents to begin with, and can't personally handle the job.


Too bad there isn't a like button for this post.


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25 Oct 2019, 4:28 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I hate it when parents kill their children with autism or something else, then tries to justify it with having some sort of mental dysfunction. Most kill these kinds of children because they're terrible parents to begin with, and can't personally handle the job.


Too bad there isn't a like button for this post.


Thanks. 8)


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