Another Trump Supporter threatening civil war
Kraichgauer
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Kraichgauer
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All the same, it's still a strong message to the democrats that if they are framing Trump, they might want to abandon that course of action, and remove him the old fashioned way by producing a canidate who will win the next presidential election.
Let me guess. "Framing Trump" is exactly what you think the Democrats are doing, so you're with the guy mentioned in the OP.
I was thinking of putting the word "if" in my post in bold caps because I anticipated such a response.
I would have to be narrow minded to not consider it a possibility.
So if the Democrats are "framing" Trump, does that make violence OK? Not like, the Republicans simply voting not guilty in a Senate trial, and making your case to the public? Do you have to go there with breaking out the guns and violent threats?
It doesn't make violence ok. It means that IF they are up to no good, they are playing with fire.
And no that's not me making some kind of proclamation as a trump supporter or a republican or a conservative - of which I consider myself none of those things. It's an outside observer's aprisal regarding the current state of affairs.
BS. You are a Trump supporter. You are not outside this. And I would say that with you being a Trump supporter, helping to pass along threats of violence by other Trump supporters, is you making threats of violence yourself. Pretending to be just an "outsider" making an "aprisal" in this situation is disingenuous.
What have you been smoking?
WHY are they so passionate about him?
I'm always leery of people who attract "passionate" followers.
You weren’t leery of Obama, Clinton.
All presidents have passionate followers. JFK was beloved wherever he went. Obama still is.
Nothing like Trump worship.
Exactly the same. You just using bias glasses.
I don't recall Obama or Clinton supporters threatening the lives of the media, or of those with different political or social views, or believing in insane conspiracy theories.
They're the same people who made death threats to the electors and also believe in insane conspiracy theories. They are just as screwy as anyone else.
Kraichgauer
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Joined: 12 Apr 2010
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Location: Spokane area, Washington state.
WHY are they so passionate about him?
I'm always leery of people who attract "passionate" followers.
You weren’t leery of Obama, Clinton.
All presidents have passionate followers. JFK was beloved wherever he went. Obama still is.
Nothing like Trump worship.
Exactly the same. You just using bias glasses.
I don't recall Obama or Clinton supporters threatening the lives of the media, or of those with different political or social views, or believing in insane conspiracy theories.
They're the same people who made death threats to the electors and also believe in insane conspiracy theories. They are just as screwy as anyone else.
There were a few nutbars in the last election, but nothing like we see on the far right.
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WHY are they so passionate about him?
I'm always leery of people who attract "passionate" followers.
You weren’t leery of Obama, Clinton.
All presidents have passionate followers. JFK was beloved wherever he went. Obama still is.
Nothing like Trump worship.
Exactly the same. You just using bias glasses.
I don't recall Obama or Clinton supporters threatening the lives of the media, or of those with different political or social views, or believing in insane conspiracy theories.
They're the same people who made death threats to the electors and also believe in insane conspiracy theories. They are just as screwy as anyone else.
There were a few nutbars in the last election, but nothing like we see on the far right.
If someone tunes into news that caters to one side, they are only going to get a one sided view of things.
That is fair. It's just that the whole lot of them look and act like the product of too close of intermarriage.
Where's your liberal conscience that tells you to value everyone ?
Who says I don't? But there's still no excuse for people to behave trashy, or to purposely embrace ignorance.
Apparently, you look down on inbred people.
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WHY are they so passionate about him?
I'm always leery of people who attract "passionate" followers.
You weren’t leery of Obama, Clinton.
All presidents have passionate followers. JFK was beloved wherever he went. Obama still is.
Nothing like Trump worship.
Exactly the same. You just using bias glasses.
I don't recall Obama or Clinton supporters threatening the lives of the media, or of those with different political or social views, or believing in insane conspiracy theories.
They're the same people who made death threats to the electors and also believe in insane conspiracy theories. They are just as screwy as anyone else.
There were a few nutbars in the last election, but nothing like we see on the far right.
If someone tunes into news that caters to one side, they are only going to get a one sided view of things.
While that is true, it's also true that if one political bloc is far more prone to violence, their violence will be reported on far more often. It's unreasonable to call things even when they're clearly not, so expecting the media to take the rare examples of serious violence from the left and pretend like that's just as common as serious violence from the right is basically equivalent to expecting the media to lie to protect that bloc that's known for violence.
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Kraichgauer
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Joined: 12 Apr 2010
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Posts: 47,796
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.
WHY are they so passionate about him?
I'm always leery of people who attract "passionate" followers.
You weren’t leery of Obama, Clinton.
All presidents have passionate followers. JFK was beloved wherever he went. Obama still is.
Nothing like Trump worship.
Exactly the same. You just using bias glasses.
I don't recall Obama or Clinton supporters threatening the lives of the media, or of those with different political or social views, or believing in insane conspiracy theories.
They're the same people who made death threats to the electors and also believe in insane conspiracy theories. They are just as screwy as anyone else.
There were a few nutbars in the last election, but nothing like we see on the far right.
If someone tunes into news that caters to one side, they are only going to get a one sided view of things.
What funeralxpire said.
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Kraichgauer
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Location: Spokane area, Washington state.
That is fair. It's just that the whole lot of them look and act like the product of too close of intermarriage.
Where's your liberal conscience that tells you to value everyone ?
Who says I don't? But there's still no excuse for people to behave trashy, or to purposely embrace ignorance.
Apparently, you look down on inbred people.
Obviously.
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funeralxempire
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For some reason this comment made my night.
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WHY are they so passionate about him?
I'm always leery of people who attract "passionate" followers.
You weren’t leery of Obama, Clinton.
All presidents have passionate followers. JFK was beloved wherever he went. Obama still is.
Nothing like Trump worship.
Exactly the same. You just using bias glasses.
I don't recall Obama or Clinton supporters threatening the lives of the media, or of those with different political or social views, or believing in insane conspiracy theories.
They're the same people who made death threats to the electors and also believe in insane conspiracy theories. They are just as screwy as anyone else.
There were a few nutbars in the last election, but nothing like we see on the far right.
If someone tunes into news that caters to one side, they are only going to get a one sided view of things.
While that is true, it's also true that if one political bloc is far more prone to violence, their violence will be reported on far more often. It's unreasonable to call things even when they're clearly not, so expecting the media to take the rare examples of serious violence from the left and pretend like that's just as common as serious violence from the right is basically equivalent to expecting the media to lie to protect that bloc that's known for violence.
So far it's mostly the left I have seen violence from en masse. I remember that someone made the tweet that "if Hillary loses we will just be sad, if Trump loses they will be mad". Or words to that effect. With it seems to me the idea that the left are supposed to be civil, calm and sophisticated. Whereas the right are supposed to be savages. But when Hillary lost I saw total savagery from the left. And it's like I'm supposed to pretend I didn't or that it was just a few "nutbars". But it appeared quite large scale to me. Even here I often read stuff that seems to be seething with anger and hatred. I know it's supposed to be saintly righteous indignation, but it still has violence written all over it. If Trump ends up getting reelected I'll be surprised if the left doesn't totally explode en masse again.
WHY are they so passionate about him?
I'm always leery of people who attract "passionate" followers.
You weren’t leery of Obama, Clinton.
All presidents have passionate followers. JFK was beloved wherever he went. Obama still is.
Nothing like Trump worship.
Exactly the same. You just using bias glasses.
I don't recall Obama or Clinton supporters threatening the lives of the media, or of those with different political or social views, or believing in insane conspiracy theories.
They're the same people who made death threats to the electors and also believe in insane conspiracy theories. They are just as screwy as anyone else.
There were a few nutbars in the last election, but nothing like we see on the far right.
If someone tunes into news that caters to one side, they are only going to get a one sided view of things.
While that is true, it's also true that if one political bloc is far more prone to violence, their violence will be reported on far more often. It's unreasonable to call things even when they're clearly not, so expecting the media to take the rare examples of serious violence from the left and pretend like that's just as common as serious violence from the right is basically equivalent to expecting the media to lie to protect that bloc that's known for violence.
So far it's mostly the left I have seen violence from en masse. I remember that someone made the tweet that "if Hillary loses we will just be sad, if Trump loses they will be mad". Or words to that effect. With it seems to me the idea that the left are supposed to be civil, calm and sophisticated. Whereas the right are supposed to be savages. But when Hillary lost I saw total savagery from the left. And it's like I'm supposed to pretend I didn't or that it was just a few "nutbars". But it appeared quite large scale to me. Even here I often read stuff that seems to be seething with anger and hatred. I know it's supposed to be saintly righteous indignation, but it still has violence written all over it. If Trump ends up getting reelected I'll be surprised if the left doesn't totally explode en masse again.
I'm starting to agree with you more and more.
Thanks. I'm not saying the right are any better. Both are comprised of human beings and human beings act according to human nature.
Last edited by EzraS on 26 Oct 2019, 6:43 am, edited 1 time in total.
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