Is the West about to turn into a dumpster fire?

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StayFrosty
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24 Nov 2020, 4:22 am

I just sense dark days are quickly approaching...



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24 Nov 2020, 4:27 am

By "the West" do you mean "the entire Western World"?

Or do you mean "the American West"?

The later might well turn into one big literal brush/forest fire in some near future.

The former might well turn into a figurative "dumpster fire".



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24 Nov 2020, 4:41 am

Well, we humans apparently f****d up the planet.



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24 Nov 2020, 4:52 am

About to? It always has been. :lol:


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24 Nov 2020, 6:25 am

The same has been asked and said for ages.

I like watching shows from the 70s and have seen episodes about how everything was on the verge of going down the toilet. Those people, who have since mostly died of old age, were full of angist over the dark times the immediate future held.



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24 Nov 2020, 7:03 am

Well...

1. The US has retreated from major international agreements (climate change, WHO, nuclear treaties etc.).
2. The two major economic powers in the west (The US and The EU) are now at odds because of the US trade war.
3. Brexit has weakened the cooperation between European countries significantly.
4. The global economic dominance of Western countries has diminished since the end of the Cold War.
5. The West has been unable to translate military might into policy successes. Just look at Iraq and Afghanistan.
6. The (mis)handling of COVID-19 in the West has cast doubt about our ability to handle major crises.

… Joe Biden might be able to partially reverse 1-2 as president of the US, but 3-6 are not so easily rectified.

I doubt we will see a collapse of the Western world, but we probably have to get used to the fact that our way of life is no longer "the only game in town" and that our global influence will become less… well, global.



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24 Nov 2020, 2:58 pm

Europe is doing great. Not sure if you just mean America.



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24 Nov 2020, 3:39 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
About to? It always has been. :lol:



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24 Nov 2020, 3:43 pm

I've always been more partial to:


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If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. —Malcolm X
Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.