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13 Dec 2019, 3:13 am

U.K. General Election 2019: Conservatives Secure Large Majority in Parliament

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Prime Minister Boris Johnson won an overall majority for his Conservative Party in Parliament on Thursday, as general election results suggested his campaigning on one issue — Brexit — had paid off for the party among voters.

Mr. Johnson should have the support he needs to take Britain out of the European Union early next year, a huge victory for him after months of division, vitriol and chaos at home over how to complete the divorce with the Continent.

Now Mr. Johnson, whose bare-knuckled tactics in the Brexit battle provoked a rebellion in his own party and a rebuke from the Supreme Court, is poised to lead Britain through its most significant transition in 50 years.

At his constituency early Friday, he said that it looked as though his government had received “a powerful new mandate to get Brexit done,” and in a subsequent speech in central London, he vowed that it would happen “on time, by the 31st of January.”
“Let’s go out and get on with it,” Mr. Johnson said.

Updating its exit poll with official results, the BBC projected that the Conservatives would win about 363 seats in the House of Commons, and that the opposition Labour Party would win about 203: about a 75-seat majority for the Conservatives, when the smaller parties are factored in.

Holding a minority government and facing intractable opposition in Parliament, Mr. Johnson gambled that a general election could reshuffle the cards in his favor, and win support for the Brexit plan he negotiated with the European Union. His predecessor, Theresa May, similarly sought to improve her position with a general election in 2017 — only to see her plan backfire.

This time, the vote seems likely to influence Britain’s immediate future.

It seemed certain to quash what hope “Remainers” still had for a second referendum. It would free Mr. Johnson from relying on lawmakers from Northern Ireland who had propped up his government — and opposed the terms of his Brexit plan. And it was a crushing blow to the Labour Party, which is projected to have one of its worst defeats in decades.

Speaking to supporters in the borough of Islington early Friday morning, Jeremy Corbyn said he would not lead the Labour Party in “any future general election campaign,” acknowledging the emphatic defeat his party suffered.

But Mr. Corbyn said he would stay on as leader for the time being, saying he wanted to ensure a process “of reflection on this result and on the policies that the party will take going forward.”

He added, “I will lead the party during that period to ensure that discussion takes place, and we move on into the future.”

With almost all seats decided, the opposition Labour Party was headed for a historically bad defeat, an outcome so damaging that it has put Mr. Corbyn under huge pressure to resign. In his statement, Mr. Corbyn called it “a very disappointing night.”
The Conservatives’ significant margin over Labour will be a difference the opposition will have to live with for as long as five years, and it could take a decade or more to overcome, analysts said.

The centrist Liberal Democrats, who campaigned against Brexit and were once touted as potential kingmakers in Parliament, also experienced major losses. Their defeated candidates included the party leader, Jo Swinson, who lost her seat to a member of the Scottish National Party.

John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor and Mr. Corbyn’s close ally, told the BBC on Thursday night that the result was “extremely disappointing.”

The centrist Liberal Democrats, who campaigned against Brexit and were once touted as potential kingmakers in Parliament, also experienced major losses. Their defeated candidates included the party leader, Jo Swinson, who lost her seat to a member of the Scottish National Party.

John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor and Mr. Corbyn’s close ally, told the BBC on Thursday night that the result was “extremely disappointing.”

As to Mr. Corbyn’s future, he promised “appropriate decisions,” but blamed the projected outcome on the election’s being dominated by Brexit rather than Mr. Corbyn’s agenda of nationalizations, tax increases and an enormous rise in social spending.

If Labour’s seat tally dips as low as projected, that would make it the party’s weakest performance since before World War II — worse than the 1983 result achieved by Michael Foot, who offered the country a left-wing manifesto that was described by one Labour politician at the time as “the longest suicide note in history”

Having failed to win two consecutive general elections, Mr. Corbyn’s position looks increasingly untenable. The last party leader to fail twice was Neil Kinnock, who resigned after losing general elections in 1987 and 1992.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s Conservative Party wasn’t the only projected big winner in the general election on Thursday. The other, the exit poll says, was Nicola Sturgeon, the leader of the pro-independence Scottish National Party, known as the S.N.P.

That could spell trouble for Mr. Johnson down the road.

The S.N.P.’s projected win of 49 of Scotland’s 59 seats would exceed all expectations and put the party in a position of almost total dominance in Scottish politics. That would mean that once Mr. Johnson breaks the deadlock on Brexit, he may well confront a growing constitutional crisis over Scottish independence.

Mr. Johnson is unpopular in Scotland, where his bumbling, upper-class, English persona tends to go down badly. But the Tories had expected to hold many of their 13 seats there by playing up their opposition to Scottish independence, on which public opinion there is about evenly split.

The results suggested, however, that most Scottish voters placed greater emphasis on stopping Brexit. With that now certain to proceed, the tensions between London and Edinburgh are almost certain to increase.

The results would be the second best in the S.N.P.’s history, a few seats short of the 56 it secured in 2015 before it fell back to 35 two years later.
Mr. Johnson has ruled out the possibility of another vote on Scottish independence, which was rejected in a 2014 referendum. But Ms. Sturgeon, citing the changed circumstances introduced by Brexit, has demanded the right to hold another vote.


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13 Dec 2019, 4:16 am

I hope everyone who voted Tory yesterday dies a long, slow, painful death preferably whilst sleeping on the streets due to lack of social housing and hospital beds - because that's what you all voted for.

You've just elected Bertie Wooster - a compulsive liar who couldn't even be trusted to run a bath, let alone a country - to take charge of your affairs for the next five years. A man so devolved of political and intellectual substance he makes Trump look like Noam Chomsky.

You've ruined everything for the unfortunate souls in this country who still have more than five functioning braincells to rub together.

Hope you enjoy being relegated by the aristocracy to the place you voted to be relegated to - the gutter. If you voted Tory, don't ever come to me for sympathy over any issue that blights your personal life ever again. Whatever negative things happen to you over the next five years are your karma and your fault.



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13 Dec 2019, 5:25 am

Bustduster wrote:
I hope everyone voted Tory yesterday...

I'm trying to not think so harshly about it but that was an excellent post.

Some woman on telly just said she voted Tory because she wanted money putting into public sevices, what's wrong with people?


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13 Dec 2019, 5:42 am

It seems the tactical voting went down like a lead balloon. For anyone with a semblance of decency and intelligence the result is a f****** disaster


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13 Dec 2019, 5:50 am

[quote="Bustduster"]I hope everyone who voted Tory yesterday dies a long, slow, painful death - preferably whilst living on the streets due to lack of social housing and hospital beds - because that's what you all voted for.
You've just elected Bertie f*****g Wooster - a compulsive liar who couldn't even be trusted to run a bath, let alone a country - to take charge of your affairs for the next five years. A man so devolved of political substance he makes Trump look like Noam Chomsky. ]


You know? When Donald Trump wins the next election I'll probably be saying the same about every a**hole who chose to vote him into power. :|


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13 Dec 2019, 6:07 am

Thoroughly disappointed by the result, but it is what it is. I was always going to be disappointed though. IMO we are experiencing possibly the lowest British politics, and the standard of MP's, has been at for a very very long time, maybe in living memory. Whatever the result was I was not going to particularly like it tbh as they are all an absolute shower and there was no one I was particularly rooting for.

It does concern me that the country is now going off in quite a stark dramatic direction that it hasn't gone down before. It's going to be quite a new Britain, one that we haven't really seen before but the signs have been there for all to see for 9.5 years (welfare cuts, DWP policy changes, homelessness shooting up, more foodbanks than McDonalds etc) but that is what the voters have chosen as their future and we ave to wait and see how it all plays out now.

I have a friend from a country that has a long troubled history and is now going through more turmoil. I have asked him how he keeps so chirpy about it and he said that history shows it is always 1 step backwards followed by 2 steps forward. If something really does go bad then it is only a matter of time before something positive emerges out of it to turn it around. I am keeping that positive message with me for the foreseeable.



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13 Dec 2019, 6:17 am

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13 Dec 2019, 6:59 am

Looks like the angry hateful people who wish cancer upon others didn't get their way.



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13 Dec 2019, 7:12 am

Oh well, that should at least heal the rift in the Tory party which has engulfed us all. Hopefully Labour will choose an electable leader now, because that was a walkover.

Poor old Wales, its deprived, its neglected and I fear that it will remain so...this is reminiscent of the 80s. Let's see how things pan out.



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13 Dec 2019, 7:17 am

EzraS wrote:
Looks like the angry hateful people who wish cancer upon others didn't get their way.

I'm not a hateful person l but I am angry that we've been inflicted with the Tories for another 5 years. They don't give a damn about the majority of the population.


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13 Dec 2019, 7:21 am

EzraS wrote:
Looks like the angry hateful people who wish cancer upon others didn't get their way.

We don't all want to hang Torys off the nearest lamp post. There's hatred on both sides.



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13 Dec 2019, 7:24 am

EzraS wrote:
Looks like the angry hateful people who wish cancer upon others didn't get their way.


people? I have only seen 1 person suggest that on here. Who are the others?



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13 Dec 2019, 7:31 am

For those who support the mistreatment of the disabled and disadvantaged it was a good day .


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13 Dec 2019, 8:28 am

While not a British citizen, how can half of your fellow countrymen and women all be devolved?

It seems to me that in both US and UK there is a resentment against voters who do not abandon their own interests, in favor of those less fortunate. I am supportive of those in need of disability benefits. I have often mentioned my one little granddaughter who is autistic. She is six and receives $800/mo in disability. That began when the Liberals were in power and remains while the Conservatives are in power. She gets Medicaid, etc... I don't see how my vote for Trump has harmed her.

This is how the current UK system appears to me, an outsider: If the UK doesn't overhaul the NHS and stop allowing so many to take advantage of those services (open borders), they are going to run out of money. They have overloaded the system with too many people and the plan is always tax, or revenue generated by EU participation. When the land mass isn't getting any bigger, the hospitals aren't getting any bigger, the providers are not superhuman can't handle the unlimited need, even if they had the money. There are more people swamping the UK, stressing the system further while putting nothing back into the economy, only taking from it. So, in essence the average UK citizen lives to put a roof over their heads, eat and know that they can be treated within 3-6 months if they get cancer of the butthole (which isn't all that great a time frame to begin with). Forgive me for being so unevolved, that's not my idea of life. I would argue that half of the UK population has lowered the bar so much, they see the hope for something more or better than mere survival as selfish. Just how an outsider views it...


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13 Dec 2019, 8:39 am

Persephone29 wrote:
While not a British citizen, how can half of your fellow countrymen and women all be devolved?

It seems to me that in both US and UK there is a resentment against voters who do not abandon their own interests, in favor of those less fortunate. I am supportive of those in need of disability benefits. I have often mentioned my one little granddaughter who is autistic. She is six and receives $800/mo in disability. That began when the Liberals were in power and remains while the Conservatives are in power. She gets Medicaid, etc... I don't see how my vote for Trump has harmed her.

This is how the current UK system appears to me, an outsider: If the UK doesn't overhaul the NHS and stop allowing so many to take advantage of those services (open borders), they are going to run out of money. They have overloaded the system with too many people and the plan is always tax, or revenue generated by EU participation. When the land mass isn't getting any bigger, the hospitals aren't getting any bigger, the providers are not superhuman can't handle the unlimited need, even if they had the money. There are more people swamping the UK, stressing the system further while putting nothing back into the economy, only taking from it. So, in essence the average UK citizen lives to put a roof over their heads, eat and know that they can be treated within 3-6 months if they get cancer of the butthole (which isn't all that great a time frame to begin with). Forgive me for being so unevolved, that's not my idea of life. I would argue that half of the UK population has lowered the bar so much, they see the hope for something more or better than mere survival as selfish. Just how an outsider views it...


EU migrants are on average a net fiscal benefit to the UK and contribute more to the economy than the average British adult
https://www.oxfordeconomics.com/recent-releases/8747673d-3b26-439b-9693-0e250df6dbba