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24 May 2020, 5:48 pm

Large gathering of idiots flood the pools.
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24 May 2020, 11:23 pm

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High school swim party contributes to ‘second peak’ in Arkansas coronavirus cases
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A high school swim party is responsible for a cluster of new COVID-19 cases in Arkansas, officials there said.

“A high school swim party that I’m sure everybody thought was harmless,” Gov. Asa Hutchinson told reporters of the gathering.

“They’re young, they’re swimming, they’re just having activity and positive cases resulted from that,” Hutchinson said, without elaborating on the number who were infected.


This is a classic example of the unbelievably abysmal reporting that we've seen throughout this epidemic. A party occurred somewhere in Arkansas. Where? No idea. When did it occur? The report doesn't even say! How many people where there? No idea. "[P]ositive cases resulted." How many? No idea. What does "cases" mean? People who got sick? People who tested positive? No idea.

A high school student at this supposed party which happened at an unknown place on an unknown date and which resulted in some unknown number of "cases" could write a better news story than that.


Stop being a critical thinker, ffs. :mrgreen:



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24 May 2020, 11:25 pm

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A long and detailed interview with a top epidemiologist. Well worth reading.


‘We could open up again and forget the whole thing’
Epidemiologist Knut Wittkowski on the deadly consequences of lockdown.

Governments around the world say they are following ‘The Science’ with their draconian measures to stem the spread of the virus. But the science around Covid-19 is bitterly contested. Many experts have serious doubts about the effectiveness of the measures, and argue that our outsized fears of Covid-19 are not justified. Knut Wittkowski is one such expert who has long argued for a change of course. For 20 years, Wittkowski was the head of Biostatistics, Epidemiology, and Research Design at The Rockefeller University’s Center for Clinical and Translational Science. spiked spoke to him to find out more about the pandemic.

spiked: Is Covid-19 dangerous?

Knut Wittkowski: No, unless you have age-related severe comorbidities. So if you are in a nursing home because you cannot live by yourself anymore, then getting infected is dangerous.

We had the other extreme in Switzerland, which was hit pretty hard. There was one child that died. People believed that this child was born in 2011. In fact, it was born in 1911, and that was the only child that died. It was a mere coding error. Somebody with the age 108 was coded as aged eight.

spiked: How far along is the epidemic?

Wittkowski: It is over in China. It is over in South Korea. It is substantially down in most of Europe and down a bit everywhere, even in the UK. The UK and Belarus are latecomers, so you do not see exactly what you are seeing in continental Europe. But everywhere in Europe, the number of cases is substantially declining.


https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/1 ... ole-thing/

I don't entirely get his message. Is it "Let's just let the old people die and get over it, the sooner the better"?


I haven't read this in detail, but surely the message is for those at risk to stay under the bed. :wink:



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Did Japan Just Beat the Virus Without Lockdowns or Mass Testing?

Japan’s state of emergency is nearing its end with new cases of the coronavirus dwindling to mere dozens. It got there despite largely ignoring the default playbook.

No restrictions were placed on residents’ movements, and businesses from restaurants to hairdressers stayed open. No high-tech apps that tracked people’s movements were deployed. The country doesn’t have a center for disease control. And even as nations were exhorted to “test, test, test,” Japan has tested just 0.2% of its population -- one of the lowest rates among developed countries.

Yet the curve has been flattened, with deaths well below 1,000, by far the fewest among the Group of Seven developed nations. In Tokyo, its dense center, cases have dropped to single digits on most days. While the possibility of a more severe second wave of infection is ever-present, Japan has entered and is set to leave its emergency in just weeks, with the status already lifted for most of the country and likely to exit completely as early as Monday.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ss-testing

Japan also banned everyone from sick nations from entering the country.
https://www.japan.travel/en/coronavirus/

They started denying entry anyone from infected areas on January. They ordered school closures in the beginning of March. They proclaimed state of emergency on April 7th. They ordered "six kind of businesses" closures on April 10th.
Now they're reopening, but not light-heartedly at all.


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25 May 2020, 8:02 am

NORTH KOREAN CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC

North Korea has been very tightlipped about the extent of the current pandemic. Even more so than China.

I suspect the country has been hit hard. It is interesting that China has imposed a major lockdown in the Chinese province Jilin that borders North Korea. This may give a feel for the severity in North Korea of the current pandemic.

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The latest outbreak is concentrated in Jilin, a northeastern province of 27 million people that sits near China’s borders with Russia and North Korea. Jilin has reported a small outbreak of about 130 cases and two deaths, but experts there have warned of the threat of a “big explosion.”

The authorities have also imposed a lockdown on parts of Jilin City, a manufacturing base, bringing factories to a standstill and quieting streets. In some areas, residents are allowed to leave their homes only once every two days, and for a maximum of two hours, to shop for groceries. The strictest measures are probably affecting more than 200,000 people in the city [Shulan].

[The reports also hint at a mutation in the virus.] Patients are taking longer than the typical one to two weeks to show symptoms of the illness after being infected, an expert with the National Health Commission, Qiu Haibo, told the state-run broadcaster this week, and they are carrying the virus for a longer period of time.

Source: After New Coronavirus Outbreaks, China Imposes Wuhan-Style Lockdown


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25 May 2020, 10:47 am

Colleges nationwide hit with lawsuits over coronavirus refunds

--More than 220 student-led petitions have begun circulating with more likely on the way.
--As more petitions circulate, more schools are being hit with lawsuits amid the financial constraints the coronavirus pandemic presented.

Universities across the country are being hit with lawsuits by students who aren’t satisfied with the refunds they’re being provided after being told to leave campus.

The coronavirus pandemic resulted in colleges and universities telling students to leave campus and take their courses online for the remainder of the semester. As a result, some students circulated petitions while others resorted to lawsuits saying the refunds are nowhere near comparable to the costs they paid for the spring semester.

As previously reported by Campus Reform, Michigan State University issued refunds amounting to less than a quarter of students pay for a semester of room and board, despite students there being told to move out halfway through the semester.

Currently, there are more than 220 petitions on change.org demanding schools provide the proper refunds. However, the list of schools getting smacked with lawsuits is also growing.


https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=14781


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26 May 2020, 8:00 am

A NEW WORD - "MASKNE"

“Maskne,” or acne that tends to form around the areas of your face covered by protective masks, is becoming more and more common as Americans don protective face coverings in the fight against COVID-19. But that doesn’t mean you have to accept “maskne” as just another irritating facet of life in 2020.

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Dr. Samer Jaber, of Washington Square Dermatology in NYC, says that while “maskne” may be more prevalent, there’s no reason not to adopt a few simple practices to keep it from forming in the first place.

“When you wear a mask, you seal in your breath,” says Dr. Jaber on the causes of “maskne” and other related skin conditions. “This creates a moist, humid environment as it traps your breath, skin oils and sweat, leading to irritation, rashes and acne.”

Comparing the phenomenon to diaper rash, Jaber adds that the masks themselves may also irritate skin simply by being in contact with the face for long periods of time. This can possibly exacerbate existing conditions like eczema, psoriasis or rosacea.

“The longer you wear a mask the worse it is, so this is unfortunately very common in health care workers, as they need to wear their masks for long periods of time,” says Dr. Jaber.

Source: 'Maskne': Suffering from acne or breakouts under your mask? Here's what to do


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26 May 2020, 8:49 am

LENGTH OF CONTAGION

A new study out of Singapore suggests that COVID-19 patients are not infectious 11 days after getting sick.

"In a local study from a multicenter cohort of 73 COVID-19 patients, when the Ct value was 30 or higher (i.e. when viral load is low), no viable virus (based on being able to culture the virus) has been found," the researchers wrote in the study. "In addition, virus could not be isolated or cultured after day 11 of illness."

The researchers noted that a separate study out of Germany found "the degree of viral shedding was very high in the first week of symptoms," supporting their findings.

"In sputum, sgRNA (also known as (viral subgenomic messenger RNAs, which are only present in actively-infected cells) declined over days 10 - 11, and in throat swabs, sgRNA was not detected after day 5," the researchers added. "Infectious virus was cultured from throat and lung specimens in the first week of symptoms, but none after day 8 in spite of high viral loads detected by regular PCR."

"Based on the accumulated data since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, the infectious period of SARS-CoV-2 in symptomatic individuals may begin around 2 days before the onset of symptoms, and persists for about 7 - 10 days after the onset of symptoms," the researchers concluded. "Active viral replication drops quickly after the first week, and viable virus was not found after the second week of illness despite the persistence of PCR detection of RNA."

Source: COVID-19 patients are not infectious 11 days after getting sick


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26 May 2020, 3:09 pm

NEW YORK NURSING HOME DEATHS.

COVID-19 has already killed thousands of nursing home residents in New York. An estimated 10,000 or more, double what the state reports. It’s hard to know what’s worse, the dying or the lying.

Under criticism for forcing nursing homes to admit COVID-19 patients, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is trying to shift the blame to President Trump. “Don’t criticize the state for following the president’s policy,” Cuomo said at his Saturday news conference. The governor points to a Trump administration statement issued on March 13.

Sorry, Governor, but you’re twisting what the statement said. The administration recommended nursing homes should admit patients even if they were coming from a hospital battling COVID-19, not that patients with COVID-19 themselves should be admitted.

To the contrary, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was emphatic about the dangers of allowing COVID-19 to invade a nursing home. On March 18, the CDC stated that “once COVID-19 has been introduced into a long term care facility, it has the potential to result in high attack rates among residents, staff members, and visitors.” The agency warned “it is critical that long-term care facilities implement active measures to prevent introduction of COVID-19.”

One week later, on March 25, Cuomo’s Health Department mandated that nursing homes accept COVID patients and barred homes from requiring COVID tests for admission. Facilities had to fly blind, not knowing which incoming patients endangered residents and staff.

As soon as the mandate was announced, the national association of nursing home doctors protested that Cuomo’s policy posed “a clear and present danger to all of the residents of a nursing home.” The Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths, a patient advocacy group, urged Cuomo to change course.

But the state’s health commissioner, Howard Zucker, doubled down, as deaths soared, and instead began fudging the death statistics to conceal the carnage.

At the outset of the pandemic, New York reported how many nursing home residents died from COVID-19, whether they died at the home or after being hospitalized. That’s standard. But as the toll escalated, the state Health Department quietly shifted to reporting only deaths at the homes, omitting those who succumbed after going to a hospital.

It’s likely 10,000 nursing home residents have died in New York from COVID-19, about double what the Cuomo administration is reporting. That estimate has also been put forward by health care think tank American Commitment.

Cuomo bragged last week that New York ranks 34th in per capita nursing home deaths. It’s a phony number – another whopper.

Many mistakes have been made so far during this pandemic. Mistakes are inevitable, and we should all be working together to rectify them and plan for a better response next time.

But the evidence suggests New York’s decision mandating nursing homes take COVID patients wasn’t just bungling It’s about money. Two other states started to impose a similarly lethal policy and quickly pulled back, as deaths rose.

New York stuck with the lethal policy until May 10, way too long. Why? Hospitals inundated with COVID-19 patients insisted on clearing out the elderly and sending them to whatever nursing homes had empty beds. The state Health Department willingly complied, nursing home residents be damned.

In New York, the Health Department works for the hospital industry, not for patients and families. The Greater New York Hospital Association (GNYHA) bundles millions of dollars from the hospitals and funnels the money to New York politicians, including Cuomo and the state Democratic Party’s housekeeping committee. Hospital interests give more and hold more sway in Albany even than the real estate industry or Wall Street. Often it’s GYNHA’s president, Ken Raske, who gets a prized seat at Cuomo's table at political dinners.

The state Health Department, in return, does the hospital industry’s bidding, tolerating hospital infection rates worse than the national average and hiding outbreaks of deadly diseases like Candida auris at hospitals, when the public has a right to know.

Source: Cuomo nursing home scandal – Deaths likely closer to 10,000 and it gets worse


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26 May 2020, 3:44 pm

Yup, Cuomo screwed up.


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26 May 2020, 4:04 pm

I believe they set up additional beds in Connecticut using the National Guard.
But, the governor here had more time to devise a solution.

I think this is scary in the same way cancer clusters are scary. People get concerned when they see a cluster of cancer in a small town. The difference is that we know the cause this time.



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26 May 2020, 5:54 pm

So 50% of antibody tests might be wrong, CDC says

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Bosses should not use antibody tests to determine whether employees should come back to work, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says in new guidance.

The serologic tests, which are used to determine whether people have been infected in the past with Covid-19, might be wrong up to half the time.

"In a population where the prevalence is 5%, a test with 90% sensitivity and 95% specificity will yield a positive predictive value of 49%. In other words, less than half of those testing positive will truly have antibodies," the CDC says.
They are not accurate enough to use to make important policy choices, the CDC says.

"Serologic test results should not be used to make decisions about returning persons to the workplace," it says. It should not also factor into decisions at correctional facilities, K-12 schools and college residence halls, the CDC says.
It is best to use tests with high specificity, the CDC adds.


Just as Covid-19 cases keep rising in 17 states, holiday revelers cram together without masks
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Packing pool parties and other Memorial Day events, many Americans marked the unofficial start of summer just like they did before coronavirus.

But while the revelers shunned face masks and ignored social distancing guidelines, the virus keeps spreading unabated, killing both the elderly and the young.

By Tuesday evening, more than 1,676,000 Americans have been infected with the coronavirus, and more than 98,700 have died, according to Johns Hopkins University.

In 17 states, the numbers of new cases are trending upward. Those states include Georgia, Arkansas, California and Alabama.

In 20 states, the numbers of new cases each day are generally going down. And 13 states, the numbers appear to be holding steady.

Some Americans took warnings from health officials very seriously -- wearing masks while in public, keeping their distance from strangers or celebrating the holiday weekend at home.

Those precautions are especially important because new research shows an estimated 40% of coronavirus transmissions happen before symptoms even appear.

And now that states have loosened or eliminated stay-at-home orders, "it is up to every individual to protect themselves and their community," said Dr. Stephen M. Hahn, commissioner of the US Food and Drug Administration.

"Social distancing, hand washing and wearing masks protect us all."


New York reported the fewest number of daily coronavirus deaths since the pandemic began
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New York has reported its lowest daily death toll from Covid-19 since the pandemic began in the United States, the governor says.

Health officials on Monday reported 73 residents died in a single day, Gov. Andrew Cuomo told reporters on Tuesday.
"In this absurd new reality, that is good news," Cuomo said. "Any other time and place, when we lose 73 New Yorkers, it's tragic. It's tragic now, but relative to where we've been, we're on the other side of the curve."

The number of daily new cases, 200, and new hospitalizations have decreased as well, Cuomo said.

Several parts of the state have reopened in the past week, with the exception of New York City, where "the numbers have been worse."

The Mid-Hudson region reopened on Tuesday and Long Island will follow on Wednesday.
"We want the economy to come roaring back ... that is not going to happen just by wishing it be so. We have to be part of that, we have to take affirmative action to be part of that and today is page one of that chapter" Cuomo said.

Each region will have a control group responsible for watching the number of cases, Cuomo said, but state residents can help by wearing face coverings, continue following social distancing measures and by washing their hands.
"Wearing the mask has got to be something you do every day. When you get up, when you walk out of the house, you put the mask on," he said.


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26 May 2020, 9:17 pm

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NEW YORK NURSING HOME DEATHS.

COVID-19 has already killed thousands of nursing home residents in New York. An estimated 10,000 or more, double what the state reports. It’s hard to know what’s worse, the dying or the lying.

Under criticism for forcing nursing homes to admit COVID-19 patients, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is trying to shift the blame to President Trump....

Andrew Cuomo gave immunity to nursing home execs after big campaign donations

As Governor Andrew Cuomo faced a spirited challenge in his bid to win New York’s 2018 Democratic primary, his political apparatus got a last-minute boost: a powerful healthcare industry group suddenly poured more than $1m into a Democratic committee backing his campaign.

Less than two years after that flood of cash from the Greater New York Hospital Association (GNYHA), Cuomo signed legislation last month quietly shielding hospital and nursing home executives from the threat of lawsuits stemming from the coronavirus outbreak. The provision, inserted into an annual budget bill by Cuomo’s aides, created one of the nation’s most explicit immunity protections for healthcare industry officials, according to legal experts.


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27 May 2020, 3:28 am

Coronavirus outbreak at South Korea e-commerce warehouse drives spike in new cases

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South Korea reported the highest daily number of new coronavirus cases in 49 days on Wednesday, as one of the country’s largest e-commerce companies battled an outbreak linked to a now-shuttered logistics facility.

The Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC) reported 40 new cases as of midnight Tuesday, bringing the country’s total number to 11,265. A day earlier the country recorded 19 new cases.

So far, at least 36 cases have been linked to an outbreak at the logistics centre operated by SoftBank-backed e-commerce firm Coupang Corp in Bucheon, west of Seoul, the KCDC said. It was not immediately clear how many of the cases were reported in the last 24 hours.

About 3,600 people at the facility are being tested. The company said it closed the centre on Monday and began the strongest disinfection measures recommended by authorities.

Coupang benefited from the contactless trend driven by COVID-19 in South Korea, with orders surging for groceries and other products. The logistics centre opened in early March and is in charge of deliveries to western Seoul, a spokeswoman said.

The first case related to the centre was diagnosed on Saturday, and is suspected to be connected with a Seoul nightclub outbreak earlier this month.

Health officials warned that cases linked to the centre could rise.

“We are very nervous about community infections and we are keeping a close eye on the situation,” vice health minister Kim Kang-lip said at a briefing.

Kim said authorities suspect the logistics centre did not comply with “basic” quarantine principles, adding that an investigation is under way.

A spokeswoman for Coupang however said the centre went through daily disinfection and all employees wore masks and gloves and had temperatures checked.

Despite the spike in new cases, more than 2 million children returned to class on Wednesday, the latest in a phased opening of schools.

“What we are worried about now is that when kids go to school, they’re naturally physically close to their friends and they have to eat together so they may be infected with coronavirus,” said Chan Woong-jeon, the father of a 2nd grader who returned to Seryun Elementary School in Seoul on Wednesday.

Park Hyeon-ji, a teacher at the school, said teachers had been trained on how to react to any outbreak.

“We’ll be able to take immediate action,” she said.


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27 May 2020, 4:34 am

I think it's worth to notice the numbers.
40 new cases resulted in massive testing and stop of a large company for thorough disinfection.
40 new cases a day in a country of 50 million.

My country is an order of magnitude from there, there are few-hundred-persons outbreaks in mines that cause similar reactions.

Where is yours?


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27 May 2020, 6:23 am

That is how you stop something with exponential growth. You need to attack it while it is still small and manageable.
If you wait the numbers grow too fast to stop.