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27 Feb 2020, 4:44 pm

The commandant of the Marine Corps has ordered that all symbols connected to the Confederacy be removed from Marine installations, according to reports.

Commandant General David Berger is said to have instructed that all Marine bases remove any "Confederate-related paraphernalia" worldwide, reported Task and Purpose.

The directive was sent out as part of a memo, seen by Military.com, in which Berger demanded several initiatives be put in place, including finding ways to place more women in combat positions and to update their recruitment policies to prohibit those with prior domestic abuse convictions.

The decision arrives amid long-running debates about the prominence of Confederate flags and monuments in states such as the Carolinas.

The order also arrives after a survey conducted by the Military Times revealed 36 percent of active-duty troops say they have personally witnessed examples of white nationalism or racist ideology from service members within their ranks in the last few months.

The poll was conducted after a string of incidents in which Marines were investigated over their alleged neo-Nazi ties.

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28 Feb 2020, 2:19 am

While it doesn't necessarily surprise me, it seems a bit silly to crack down on Confederate items specifically (or solely). Doing so makes it look like the Marines are scared of Confederate symbols. Why not make it all non-USMC/USA political affiliate material? That makes it less anti-Confederate in particular and more pro-US-government-above-all, which is kind of one of the core USMC messages anyway.



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28 Feb 2020, 9:30 am

What it does is make Marines look like Americans, not slave-owning Confederates.


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28 Feb 2020, 4:54 pm

Fnord wrote:
The order also arrives after a survey conducted by the Military Times revealed 36 percent of active-duty troops say they have personally witnessed examples of white nationalism or racist ideology from service members within their ranks in the last few months.

The poll was conducted after a string of incidents in which Marines were investigated over their alleged neo-Nazi ties.

Source:[/color] This Newsweek Article


When I posted links to a Vice documentary that demonstrated many of those who marched in Charlottesville were active members of the military I recall being laughed at. I was derided when I mentioned witnessing a US naval serviceman on R&R in San Diego with his family in 2009 who had a swastika tattoo on his back.

The US has to come to terms with historic brainwashing of its population that pertain to strongly held beliefs about race that I fear have not shifted that far.



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29 Feb 2020, 3:28 am

The US have racist people because of their racist and imperialist foreign policy that liberaks support. The war of northern aggression had nothing to do with slavery.


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29 Feb 2020, 5:31 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
The US have racist people because of their racist and imperialist foreign policy that liberaks support. The war of northern aggression had nothing to do with slavery.


The story isn't really about the confederacy, it's about the power of symbolism and brainwashing in the US military.



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29 Feb 2020, 5:53 pm

I have more respect for those who actually fight the wars than the cowards that support them and sir at home and who are far worse.


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29 Feb 2020, 6:12 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
I have more respect for those who actually fight the wars than the cowards that support them and sir at home and who are far worse.


I am sure those who fight the wars would feel more confident that their "brothers in arms" don't shoot them in the back for being the wrong colour. Shades of WWII....



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29 Feb 2020, 6:18 pm

Only in your mind. They have all gone there together to murder brown people, which you support.


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29 Feb 2020, 8:28 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Only in your mind. They have all gone there together to murder brown people, which you support.


My support/or lack of support is irrelevant John. I'm not American so I didn't vote for the devil who runs the country you blame.

There are, however, basic principles of social evolution and social intelligence (SI) that Americans are woefully underdeveloped. Racism is but one of the undeveloped areas.



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29 Feb 2020, 9:09 pm

That's right, "the US is crawling with rabid racists" and it is your job to tell WP that on a daily basis.



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29 Feb 2020, 9:26 pm

Come back to shut down another thread?



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29 Feb 2020, 10:33 pm

No just you.



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01 Mar 2020, 12:54 am

is that crickets I hear chirping?



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01 Mar 2020, 1:18 am

Yes because pretty much nobody wants to go over the US crawling with rabid racists with you.



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01 Mar 2020, 2:58 am

That's the beauty of safe spaces like online discussion forums, you can choose to read, comment or ignore.