Elizabeth May Wants Canada To Accept U.S. Asylum Seekers Now

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06 Jun 2020, 10:02 pm

Elizabeth May Wants Canada To Accept U.S. Asylum Seekers Now That Country ‘No Longer Safe’

And Singh wants Trudeau to condemn trump’s words.

I agree with both of them. The US is no longer safe under trump’s government for quite a number of people. And I was disappointed in Trudeau’s 21 seconds of silence instead of condemning trump - but I do understand why he didn’t say anything; it would put too much money at risk. Still, though, Singh is right. It’s time to pick sides and say something.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/e ... 8?ocid=sf2


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07 Jun 2020, 8:03 am

goldfish21 wrote:
Elizabeth May Wants Canada To Accept U.S. Asylum Seekers Now That Country ‘No Longer Safe’

And Singh wants Trudeau to condemn trump’s words.

I agree with both of them. The US is no longer safe under trump’s government for quite a number of people. And I was disappointed in Trudeau’s 21 seconds of silence instead of condemning trump - but I do understand why he didn’t say anything; it would put too much money at risk. Still, though, Singh is right. It’s time to pick sides and say something.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/e ... 8?ocid=sf2
It's cold enough in the winter where I live,I'm not really into Canadian winters,but thanks for the offer though :D


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07 Jun 2020, 8:43 am

Canada is not friendly to asylum seekers, they're just like Trump.

Canada warns immigrants in U.S. about heading north of the border
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/wor ... 683297002/


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07 Jun 2020, 9:01 am

It always seemed weird to me that Canada from what I've seen has had more stringent immigration laws historically than the U.S. I'm still irritated by the fact that I personally was denied entry even though it was just going to be a day trip because I was told I didn't have enough money. That was back in the early nineties.

Am I wrong that up to the present, Canada basically requires that a person prove they'll be an uber-citizen in the contributions of their talents in order to emigrate there? Why as a U.S. citizen, can't I decide that I want to live in Canada for no other reason than I want to live in Canada?



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07 Jun 2020, 9:14 am

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Canada is not friendly to asylum seekers, they're just like Trump.

Canada warns immigrants in U.S. about heading north of the border
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/wor ... 683297002/


Two opposition parties are arguing that that approach is wrong and needs to be reconsidered given the instability and failed leadership that is currently affecting our southern neighbours.


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07 Jun 2020, 9:17 am

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It's cold enough in the winter where I live,I'm not really into Canadian winters,but thanks for the offer though :D


I'm at 44.1909° N, how about you?


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07 Jun 2020, 9:26 am

Open up your borders, Canada. The prairies of Alberta look pretty cool to me.



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07 Jun 2020, 11:29 am

vermontsavant wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Elizabeth May Wants Canada To Accept U.S. Asylum Seekers Now That Country ‘No Longer Safe’

And Singh wants Trudeau to condemn trump’s words.

I agree with both of them. The US is no longer safe under trump’s government for quite a number of people. And I was disappointed in Trudeau’s 21 seconds of silence instead of condemning trump - but I do understand why he didn’t say anything; it would put too much money at risk. Still, though, Singh is right. It’s time to pick sides and say something.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/e ... 8?ocid=sf2
It's cold enough in the winter where I live,I'm not really into Canadian winters,but thanks for the offer though :D



What is Wiiiiinter ?? :? :P

Where I live in Canada the coldest month is January with average temperatures of 4C/39.2F.

The rest of Canada, maybe not so much.. but here? Winter? What’s that? :?


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07 Jun 2020, 11:36 am

goldfish21 wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Elizabeth May Wants Canada To Accept U.S. Asylum Seekers Now That Country ‘No Longer Safe’

And Singh wants Trudeau to condemn trump’s words.

I agree with both of them. The US is no longer safe under trump’s government for quite a number of people. And I was disappointed in Trudeau’s 21 seconds of silence instead of condemning trump - but I do understand why he didn’t say anything; it would put too much money at risk. Still, though, Singh is right. It’s time to pick sides and say something.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/e ... 8?ocid=sf2
It's cold enough in the winter where I live,I'm not really into Canadian winters,but thanks for the offer though :D



What is Wiiiiinter ?? :? :P

Where I live in Canada the coldest month is January with average temperatures of 4C/39.2F.

The rest of Canada, maybe not so much.. but here? Winter? What’s that? :?
Yea your in Vancouver,the Pacific Northwest has mild winters.


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07 Jun 2020, 11:43 am

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Canada is not friendly to asylum seekers, they're just like Trump.

Canada warns immigrants in U.S. about heading north of the border
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/wor ... 683297002/


Really? So we’re supposed to have no immigration laws at all?

We’re a country of ~40M people and we take in more than 1/3rd of a Million immigrants/year + 45,000-49,000 refugees. That’s way more refugees than the USA absorbs/year into its 340M population.

As for what the Canadian official in the article said about lawful ordered immigration, what he really meant to say was we have to make sure that most of the people that come here bring money and/or money earning skills - our tax base can’t support the entire world’s poor. There’s a limit to the charity we can afford.

Although, I can foresee some massive conflicts over immigration policies in the USA and Canada over the coming decades as things heat up and dry out more and more and EVERYONE is forced to flee the uninhabitable hot zones of Central America and other places.


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07 Jun 2020, 2:13 pm

With the coming of more extreme global warming I could see Greenland as a big hot spot for future immigration which would be very good for the Danish economy.


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07 Jun 2020, 3:27 pm

I was thinking Goldfish,I wouldn't mind a summer home in northern Canada,the American political climate is most oppressive in the summer months.I do greatly enjoy the Inuit throat singers you know,so maybe I could get seasonal asylum,what do you think. :D


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07 Jun 2020, 4:55 pm

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With the coming of more extreme global warming I could see Greenland as a big hot spot for future immigration which would be very good for the Danish economy.


Greenland is largely autonomous, so it would impact their economy much more than the Danish economy.


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08 Jun 2020, 10:21 pm

Actually, especially in the higher elevations, it’s really not all that hot in Central America,

Tegucigalpa, Honduras and Guatemala City actually have nice climates.



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10 Jun 2020, 12:44 am

Magna wrote:
It always seemed weird to me that Canada from what I've seen has had more stringent immigration laws historically than the U.S. I'm still irritated by the fact that I personally was denied entry even though it was just going to be a day trip because I was told I didn't have enough money. That was back in the early nineties.

Am I wrong that up to the present, Canada basically requires that a person prove they'll be an uber-citizen in the contributions of their talents in order to emigrate there? Why as a U.S. citizen, can't I decide that I want to live in Canada for no other reason than I want to live in Canada?


It’s the same at the US border - if you can’t prove you have any money and or/ties back to your own country to return to then US customs can deny ppl entry just the same. Canada Customs & Immigration will deny people entry for a “day trip,” if they have no $ because they can’t probe they can support themselves should they stay in Canada longer then the day trip they’re claiming. They don’t want people coming here and working illegally or abusing our healthcare system etc. You may have had the purest of intentions of just visiting for a day and returning to the USA, but it’s at the officer’s discretion to decline people entry when they have the potential to overstay their welcome.. people with no money, no job, no fixed address etc are higher risk to stay illegally, work illegally, commit crimes/smuggling, abuse our healthcare system etc. People who can prove they have the money to support themselves for a visit and that they have a home life and job ties in the USA to return to are likely to almost always just visit and then go back to the USA as promised.

Canada is like any other country - it’s a corporation. Canada doesn’t require you to be an “uber-citizen,” just a Net gain. Immigration approvals are based on a merit points system where points are given based on criteria that make someone more valuable to our economy. An educated young person with an in demand skilled trade would fare much better than an older academically educated person with no money. Canada admits people who can work, build our country, and generate or pay taxes. It’s basically a business decision. That’s why people on disability have next to no shot - they’d cost us money vs make us money. And plumbers have a better shot than MBA’s (unless you have money and are bringing it with you) We have plenty of educated people here, but not enough skilled hands.

Alternatively, if you are independently wealthy and can prove you can finance your entire life here forever then you can just buy your way in like so many others have.


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10 Jun 2020, 6:45 am

Magna wrote:
It always seemed weird to me that Canada from what I've seen has had more stringent immigration laws historically than the U.S. I'm still irritated by the fact that I personally was denied entry even though it was just going to be a day trip because I was told I didn't have enough money. That was back in the early nineties.

Am I wrong that up to the present, Canada basically requires that a person prove they'll be an uber-citizen in the contributions of their talents in order to emigrate there? Why as a U.S. citizen, can't I decide that I want to live in Canada for no other reason than I want to live in Canada?

For the same reason I can't just decide I want to live in your house for no other reason than I want to live in your house.