Supreme Court positve ruling on Gay and transgendered rights

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15 Jun 2020, 3:13 pm

I just heard on the radio that the Supreme Court voted 6 to 3 that the Civil Rights Act applies to gay and transgendered people!! !! !

And Gorsuch wrote the majority opinion!

There is hope yet in the US.


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15 Jun 2020, 4:01 pm

Hoooray......... equality for everybody ......... :jester:


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15 Jun 2020, 4:09 pm

Many times, so-called conservative judges exhibit common sense.

Chief Justice Roberts, a conservative, often goes against the more conservative Justices.



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15 Jun 2020, 4:12 pm

I'm shocked that this was even under debate.
Why should any group of human beings need to fight for civil rights in their own country?

Regardless that's wonderful news. Yahoo!


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15 Jun 2020, 6:01 pm

Poor Mr. Trump ... another SCOTUS decision goes against him and his white male fundie constituents.

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15 Jun 2020, 6:14 pm

There has to be more to this story. The Civil Rights Act already applied to all citizens, so it doesn't make sense that the Supreme Court was involved.

Probably there was some disagreement about how these rights applied in some specific situation.



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15 Jun 2020, 6:18 pm

starkid wrote:
There has to be more to this story.  The Civil Rights Act already applied to all citizens, so it doesn't make sense that the Supreme Court was involved.  Probably there was some disagreement about how these rights applied in some specific situation.
Disagreement?  Between SCOTUS and POTUS?  I am shocked!  Shocked, I say!!

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15 Jun 2020, 6:22 pm

I assume this is what you are talking about?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/15/us/g ... court.html

As I expected, the situation is more nuanced. The ruling and dissent seems to have been about whether protections against sex-based discrimination apply to discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity.

The Civil Rights Act already applied to these people who were fired, but it was not clear that the act included specific kinds of protections that are not explicitly mentioned in the Act.



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15 Jun 2020, 6:25 pm

Well of course it is nuanced!

It's a Supreme Court case, after all!


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15 Jun 2020, 6:29 pm

starkid wrote:
I assume this is what you are talking about?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/15/us/g ... court.html

As I expected, the situation is more nuanced. The ruling and dissent seems to have been about whether protections against sex-based discrimination apply to discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity.

The Civil Rights Act already applied to these people who were fired, but it was not clear that the act included specific kinds of protections that are not explicitly mentioned in the Act.


So in other words, not every American is guaranteed civil rights, and they needed to decide which ones? :roll:


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15 Jun 2020, 6:35 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
starkid wrote:
I assume this is what you are talking about?  As I expected, the situation is more nuanced.  The ruling and dissent seems to have been about whether protections against sex-based discrimination apply to discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity.  The Civil Rights Act already applied to these people who were fired, but it was not clear that the act included specific kinds of protections that are not explicitly mentioned in the Act.
So in other words, not every American is guaranteed civil rights, and they needed to decide which ones?
That does seem to be the Republican Way.


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15 Jun 2020, 6:38 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
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So in other words, not every American is guaranteed civil rights, and they needed to decide which ones? :roll:

Learn how to read.



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15 Jun 2020, 6:44 pm

Isabella happens to be well-schooled in the English language.



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15 Jun 2020, 6:47 pm

starkid wrote:
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So in other words, not every American is guaranteed civil rights, and they needed to decide which ones?
Learn how to read.
Feel free to not respond to posts with which you disagree.


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15 Jun 2020, 6:52 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Isabella happens to be well-schooled in the English language.

Well that doesn't necessarily imply being well-schooled in reading comprehension.



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15 Jun 2020, 6:55 pm

starkid wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Isabella happens to be well-schooled in the English language.
Well that doesn't necessarily imply being well-schooled in reading comprehension.
Actually, it does.  What it does not imply is her permission to be the target of personal attacks.


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