Ending Affordable Care Act During Pandemic?

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Once again, the Trump administration is urging the Supreme Court to overturn the Affordable Care Act (a.k.a., "Obamacare").

In the midst of the coronavirus pandemic, the Trump administration on Thursday urged the Supreme Court to overturn the Affordable Care Act.

The administration's latest high court filing came the same day the government reported that close to half a million people who lost their health insurance amid the economic shutdown to slow the spread of COVID-19 have gotten coverage through HealthCare.gov.

The administration's legal brief makes no mention of the virus.

Some 20 million Americans would lose their health coverage, and protections for people with preexisting health conditions also would be put at risk if the court agrees with the administration in a case that won't be heard before the fall.

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And the hits just keep on coming.

Black Lives Matter so we need to defund government to END SYSTEMIC RACISM.

or at least defensively stop them from bringing that ACA mandate back

The result would be anarchy.The result would be over 20 million people losing their health insurance.

Would he support it if it had a white guy’s name on it?

If by "he" you mean DJT, then the answer is probably "yes".

And if the white guy was Republican and/or also named "Trump", then definitely "yes".

This article says 20 million would lose coverage completely and another 130 million would lose coverage for pre-existing conditions.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/obamacar ... 083c4b567a

Just another day in the orange guy’s scorched Earth temper tantrum he’s going to through for the next 6 months or so until he’s dragged out of the Oval Office in handcuffs.

The question is whether the US government should have the power to force citizens to engage in commerce.

Citizens of the United States should be free. Free to die of preventable diseases. Free to be free of treatment for cancer, heart disease, diabetes, AIDs, covid 19, TB, small pox, diphtheria, tetanus, MRSA. Free to die in the streets while those who can afford health insurance step around them.

Everyone should have an equal right to be free of the onerous requirement to purchase health insurance at a reasonable price.

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So you can’t afford to get insurance. So they fine you thousands of dollars and you still can’t afford insurance. Now they helped you . Well helped you into debt.

The insurance companies wrote the law they bribed people to pass it. It only benifits them. ACA isn’t universal healthcare. It also made health care for the millions on disability way worse then it was before the ACA.
I don’t think the part of it requiring people to have insurance should be there. I dont know how anyone would think that a good thing, well except the big insurance companies.

That reasonable price isn’t reasonable to slot of people. But insurance companies love it.

Personally I’d love to be able to go to the dentist again. Or get certain procedures.
Under ACA I can’t get tested for stds, I can’t get certain vaccines. Well not unless I want to pay it. But when a doctor appointment over the phone is $350 I can’t afford it.
I see some women in dating apps say they require a recent(in month or so ) std test results. Who can afford to go get tested every month?

Hat the ACA does is make you pay a crap ton of money you can’t afford for insurance thst won’t cover 70% of procedures making you pay even more money if you need them.
So I can certainly see why some people would rather not have insurance and just pay the procedures cost if needed.

Insurance is the problem it’s why the hospitals prices are so high. Same with college prices.

I've been through this with you in the past, Sly. I have told you how to access health care and dental care in your state, but you indicated you were not interested. Before you slam an entire program, you might want to have a more expansive view of the program and the way it helps people.

I understand you feel the program is not useful for you, that doesn't mean it isn't a literal life-saver for others.

How much does the cheapest ACA insurance cost? Surely someone with a collection of expensive guns and ornamental swords etc has a budget for taking care of their own health.

Yes, universal healthcare is superior - that’s why most first world developed nations have it. But you have a president that says socialism is bad and citizens who believe him.

FYI dental isn’t covered in Canada - only some limited coverage for the very poorest/disabled. Everyone else pays Or has coverage via a work plan IF their employer has a health insurance plan - most don’t Unless they’re unionized Or gov’t jobs. The only dental coverage everyone has is for emergency procedures like tooth extractions in an ER due to infection etc and a tooth has to come out Now. Some politicians are pushing to get dental and vision coverage for all.

$350 for a phone appt sounds like a lot. I’ve never paid a penny for a doctors visit. Socialism is bad though, boooo! Lol

Std/sti testing is free here so any Canadian can afford to get tested monthly. Chances are “good,” insurance covers it in the USA, so women requiring sti test results are doing so to protect their health And screen out partners that don’t have good jobs with decent healthcare coverage and thus likely good pay.

Insurance companies and their lobbyists are A problem, but your government is a bigger one. They’re the ones that take bribes from the insurance industry and lie to you about universal healthcare coverage being impossible and unaffordable and that socialism is a terrible thing blah blah blah and of course citizens are part of the problem for believing that crap even though the math doesn’t add up and almost every other developed country has figured out a way to do it for less money than the USA spends for worse care. *shrug* You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink.

I can go to Dennis but the insurance will no longer pay for any fixes just pulling teeth.
It’s cheaper after all.

You might want to do the same before you praise a program that hurts millions of people.
All you seem to care about is who it helps not who it hurts.

For example we could have passed a law that makes insurance companies ignore or existing conditions without mandating everyone gets insurance and if mor gets fined thousands of dollars.

Like a lot of people who never get mentioned, I was never been able to afford insurance, and the ACA would have required me to come up with several hundred dollars a month for cr*p coverage and deductibles so high I still couldn't afford to go to the doctor. When it had a "mandate", that meant I had to pay a high tax penalty for the "crime" of not being able to afford to pay a private company for a product I couldn't use out of money I needed for rent/etc.

A lot of people did get something from ACA - but a lot did not, as well.

And, btw, I used to work as a low-level grunt worker in social work companies, taking clients (mental health, street people, etc) to the doctor and such - and the "coverage" and "medicine" you get from these kinds of companies is so much garbage. I realized that I was staying healthier by "making too much money" to afford ACA handouts and so not being able to go to bottom-level doctors/clinics.

Either make it single payer like the rest of the civilized world (and take the profit out of "medicine"), or do other things that make insurance and doctoring competitive - like forcing hospitals to pre-post all their prices so people can shop around. Either socialized medicine for regular people, or real capitalism for medical-related companies. No more socialized capitalism for insurance/hospitals/etc.