Big SCOTUS decision on birth control

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08 Jul 2020, 11:30 am

The supreme court of the United States today has ruled,allowing for some employers to decline to provide contraceptive coverage on religious or moral grounds.Which could leave 70,000 women without birth control.

SCOTUS ruled 7-2 for the administration,which made a policy change to allow some employers from providing contraceptive coverage who cite religion or morality to opt out of providing low cost birth control to employees.

We hold today that the departments had statutory exemtion,as well as the contemporaneously issued moral exemtion,wrote Clarence Thomas for the majority.

In accommodating claims of religious freedom,the court has taken a balanced approach ,one that does not allow the religious beliefs of some to overwhelm the rights and interests of others who do not share there beliefs.

Birth control has been a topic of contention since health care laws were passed,initially churches,synagogues and mosques were exempt from the contraceptive coverage requirement.The Obama administration also created a way by which religiously affiliated organizations could opt out of contraceptive coverage.But women on there health plans would still get coverage for birth control,some groups said this violated there rights.

The opt out issue was a question in the 2016 SCOTUS session but with Scallia's death there had only 8 justices and couldn't come to a decision.

The Trump administration changed the rules in favor of religious groups but New Jersey and Pennsyvania challenged the policy in the courts.

necn.com New England Cable News


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08 Jul 2020, 12:32 pm

I wonder how long it will take for a protest against the company owners who decide to not allow birth control coverage in their policies?

Looks like a possibility for greeting cards that Hallmark would likely reject left on the company owners doorstep with a baby saying something to the effect of "since you made the choice for me to keep him and I didn't like carrying it around for the first 9 months, he's all yours now."



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08 Jul 2020, 12:42 pm

Bravo5150 wrote:
I wonder how long it will take for a protest against the company owners who decide to not allow birth control coverage in their policies?

Looks like a possibility for greeting cards that Hallmark would likely reject left on the company owners doorstep with a baby saying something to the effect of "since you made the choice for me to keep him and I didn't like carrying it around for the first 9 months, he's all yours now."
I could see that happening,I think in most ares a fire station or police station is a no questions asked place to leave a baby if it's unwanted.Abortions could rise which won't make these groups happy either.


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08 Jul 2020, 12:57 pm

I have heard of fire stations and police as being no ask places to leave a kid, but my guess would be it could be a form of protest to turn a corporate office into an orphanage when said corporate office is responsible for the pregnancy and it going full term because birth control wasn't available.



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08 Jul 2020, 1:21 pm

Bravo5150 wrote:
I have heard of fire stations and police as being no ask places to leave a kid, but my guess would be it could be a form of protest to turn a corporate office into an orphanage when said corporate office is responsible for the pregnancy and it going full term because birth control wasn't available.

So leave the kid at the corporation offices,that would make a point for sure.

Just as long as the night isn't cold and the kid doesn't die.Maybe leave the kid at 9 am on a July day or something.


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08 Jul 2020, 3:55 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
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I have heard of fire stations and police as being no ask places to leave a kid, but my guess would be it could be a form of protest to turn a corporate office into an orphanage when said corporate office is responsible for the pregnancy and it going full term because birth control wasn't available.

So leave the kid at the corporation offices,that would make a point for sure.

Just as long as the night isn't cold and the kid doesn't die.Maybe leave the kid at 9 am on a July day or something.


Is it better the brat die of heatstroke? :?


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08 Jul 2020, 4:35 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Bravo5150 wrote:
I have heard of fire stations and police as being no ask places to leave a kid, but my guess would be it could be a form of protest to turn a corporate office into an orphanage when said corporate office is responsible for the pregnancy and it going full term because birth control wasn't available.

So leave the kid at the corporation offices,that would make a point for sure.

Just as long as the night isn't cold and the kid doesn't die.Maybe leave the kid at 9 am on a July day or something.


Is it better the brat die of heatstroke? :?


Leaving the kids before the office opens around 6 or 7 am should be cool enough to avoid heatstroke.



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08 Jul 2020, 5:06 pm

Bravo5150 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Bravo5150 wrote:
I have heard of fire stations and police as being no ask places to leave a kid, but my guess would be it could be a form of protest to turn a corporate office into an orphanage when said corporate office is responsible for the pregnancy and it going full term because birth control wasn't available.

So leave the kid at the corporation offices,that would make a point for sure.

Just as long as the night isn't cold and the kid doesn't die.Maybe leave the kid at 9 am on a July day or something.


Is it better the brat die of heatstroke? :?


Leaving the kids before the office opens around 6 or 7 am should be cool enough to avoid heatstroke.


That's not what VS suggested though.


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08 Jul 2020, 9:06 pm

Maybe if your talking deep South,but where I live 9 am is fairly mild in summer.And someone should see the baby quickly.

6 am might be better for deep South or southwest but people won't be in the office until 9 anyway though.


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08 Jul 2020, 9:13 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

Is it better the brat die of heatstroke? :?

I didn't think about the south,where I come it's mild at 9am even in the summer.


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09 Jul 2020, 4:06 am

how is the US not a theocracy?

seriously.


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09 Jul 2020, 4:41 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
how is the US not a theocracy?

seriously.

A very conservative court that's for sure.


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09 Jul 2020, 8:36 am

SCOTUS didn't rule that these employees cannot have this certain type of birth control. Just that their employer did not have to pay for it. If they want it they are free to obtain it on their own. Nobody's rights have been violated.



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09 Jul 2020, 9:58 am

Mr Reynholm wrote:
SCOTUS didn't rule that these employees cannot have this certain type of birth control. Just that their employer did not have to pay for it. If they want it they are free to obtain it on their own. Nobody's rights have been violated.
Yes,it's just an issue of employer responsibility


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