USA kicking out international students

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07 Jul 2020, 2:45 pm

I guess they wouldn’t want to have any extra smart people to help run their businesses and conduct research and things, eh? Must have enough home grown talent. (No, they don’t. That’s why the USA and Canada import brain power from overseas.)

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08 Jul 2020, 6:18 am

I think this really sucks.

Is Canada going to do the same thing?

This is only if a college offers only online classes. I work at Pace University. They are having in-person and online classes. The international students will not be forced to leave New York.



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08 Jul 2020, 6:32 am

goldfish21 wrote:
I guess they wouldn’t want to have any extra smart people to help run their businesses and conduct research and things, eh? Must have enough home grown talent. (No, they don’t. That’s why the USA and Canada import brain power from overseas.)

https://www.mic.com/p/international-stu ... e-29001546


What benefit, out of curiosity, would be gained either by the student, or the country, when a student could have all their needs met in their home country, while still continuing their studies remotely?

Sending them "home" is not stopping their studies (the course is online, and so can be studied almost anywhere), and would place them in closer proximity to support from their families, plus, potentially, saving them money on accomodation should they be able to live in their family house.



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08 Jul 2020, 6:35 am

The benefit is the student is exposed to a culture different from his/her own.

I believe, wholeheartedly, in the concept of “exchange students.” This doesn’t mean I believe in a “one world” government.



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08 Jul 2020, 12:18 pm

Canada wouldn’t dare do that. We’re addicted to the money foreign students bring in. They pay full tuition at our universities - something like $33k/yr, buy multi million dollar houses and super cars etc. Even the poorer ones pay full tuition (vs taxpayer subsidized) and inject money into local economies even if they’re renting a dorm room. Canada wouldn’t dare tell them to f**k off. They’ve become an important revenue stream.

Many/most of them went home at the beginning of the pandemic when countries were calling people to return home before travel stopped. Canadians aren’t sad to see them go - many cheer it - because they’re a part of the problem with international money distorting our real estate markets and making it unaffordable for locals to live here. But Canada as a country/corporation can’t wait to have them back bringing mountains of cash. Canada will never tell them to F off - especially not the ones from China and Hong Kong that have all the money.

Brictoria wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
I guess they wouldn’t want to have any extra smart people to help run their businesses and conduct research and things, eh? Must have enough home grown talent. (No, they don’t. That’s why the USA and Canada import brain power from overseas.)

https://www.mic.com/p/international-stu ... e-29001546


What benefit, out of curiosity, would be gained either by the student, or the country, when a student could have all their needs met in their home country, while still continuing their studies remotely?

Sending them "home" is not stopping their studies (the course is online, and so can be studied almost anywhere), and would place them in closer proximity to support from their families, plus, potentially, saving them money on accomodation should they be able to live in their family house.


Time zones. When they stay they attend online classes with other students during the day. When they’re half a world away they would have to be up all night for online classes with their peers and essentially become nocturnal. It’s unhealthy and their education would suffer.

Also, when they’re in the USA they’re spending money there to live. They might be allowed to work part time like here, but in general they bring and spend a lot more money than they will ever make. Plus they’re assimilating into American culture, learning/improving English and making connections. Then the likelihood they may continue studies or get a job in America is higher. The USA needs more top talent and would prefer the foreign students that study there stick around and make their corporations money - same same for every country and the people they educate. And even if they return home, if they have a good experience and relationship with the USA then the more likely they are to do business with America - maybe that’s international trade or investment, maybe they send their kids to be educated in the USA etc. But kick them out and they’re going to be pissed off and have a bad view of the USA and that can only possibly hurt foreign relations - business, political, otherwise etc.


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