09 Nov 2020, 1:39 pm
09 Nov 2020, 3:52 pm
Antrax wrote:
... I don't usually go in for conspiracy theories, but the timing of the announcement strikes me as suspicious. Seems to me that somebody sat on this announcement until after the election. Could be coincidence.
While I am usually inclined to go along with the 'coincidence' factor, there is just too much of a coincidence here for me to be flippant about it.I think that Trump knew all along what Pfizer was up to, and even encouraged them to hold off until after the election. Because...
• If Trump had won the election, he could have claimed bragging rights, as in "Look what I did to Make America Great Again!" Not that he ever believed in the coronavirus in the first place (it was supposed to disappear on November 4th, remember?).
• Since he lost the election, he can now throw Pfizer under the bus and claim they colluded with the Biden campaign to withhold the vaccine so as to enable the Media to blame Trump for the lack of an earlier vaccine so that Trump could claim to be the victim of not only an illegal vote, but a diabolical left-wing conspiracy to assure that he would never again be able to run for office.
But a coincidence? Really?
With Hillary so quiet, Obama smirking and smiling so broadly, and even Pence avoiding eye contact with his master?
Yeah ... coincidence ... I mean it. It really IS a coincidence. The visible portion of this post is just sarcasm.
09 Nov 2020, 4:16 pm
09 Nov 2020, 9:28 pm
09 Nov 2020, 9:47 pm
Fnord wrote:
Antrax wrote:
... I don't usually go in for conspiracy theories, but the timing of the announcement strikes me as suspicious. Seems to me that somebody sat on this announcement until after the election. Could be coincidence.
While I am usually inclined to go along with the 'coincidence' factor, there is just too much of a coincidence here for me to be flippant about it.I think that Trump knew all along what Pfizer was up to, and even encouraged them to hold off until after the election. Because...
• If Trump had won the election, he could have claimed bragging rights, as in "Look what I did to Make America Great Again!" Not that he ever believed in the coronavirus in the first place (it was supposed to disappear on November 4th, remember?).
• Since he lost the election, he can now throw Pfizer under the bus and claim they colluded with the Biden campaign to withhold the vaccine so as to enable the Media to blame Trump for the lack of an earlier vaccine so that Trump could claim to be the victim of not only an illegal vote, but a diabolical left-wing conspiracy to assure that he would never again be able to run for office.
But a coincidence? Really?
With Hillary so quiet, Obama smirking and smiling so broadly, and even Pence avoiding eye contact with his master?
Yeah ... coincidence ... I mean it. It really IS a coincidence. The visible portion of this post is just sarcasm.
Or it could be that other side encouraged Pfizer to hold off, since Joe Biden being the right man to deal with a lengthy coronavirus crisis was his biggest selling point.
09 Nov 2020, 10:15 pm
10 Nov 2020, 8:58 pm
10 Nov 2020, 9:10 pm
10 Nov 2020, 9:55 pm
Told ya it could be done. 
10 Nov 2020, 10:00 pm
cyberdad wrote:
I watched an interview with the chief medical officer in the UK and apparently the 90% success relates to 40,000 participants who are from diverse cultural backgrounds but the CMO was unable to confirm whether the 90% reliability applies to people with severe health problems or old age.
As usual if you are young and healthy then the vaccine works.....otherwise seek medical advice.
As usual if you are young and healthy then the vaccine works.....otherwise seek medical advice.
Well, of course, they aren't going to deliberately infect the most vulnerable, duh!
If the vaccine works for younger people, there is a good chance it is going to work for everyone.
But you aren't going to be silly about including those that might die if it doesn't.
Am I the only rocket surgeon here?
11 Nov 2020, 12:33 am
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I watched an interview with the chief medical officer in the UK and apparently the 90% success relates to 40,000 participants who are from diverse cultural backgrounds but the CMO was unable to confirm whether the 90% reliability applies to people with severe health problems or old age.
As usual if you are young and healthy then the vaccine works.....otherwise seek medical advice.
As usual if you are young and healthy then the vaccine works.....otherwise seek medical advice.
Well, of course, they aren't going to deliberately infect the most vulnerable, duh!
If the vaccine works for younger people, there is a good chance it is going to work for everyone.
But you aren't going to be silly about including those that might die if it doesn't.
Am I the only rocket surgeon here?
Read the article I posed in the conversation Pepe. Older folk need to get medical advice on how much protection they can realistically get from the new vaccine.
But yes, its likely better than no protection, but older people might want to rethink crowd surfing or diving into mosh pits just because they took the vaccine.
11 Nov 2020, 12:49 am
11 Nov 2020, 12:52 am
11 Nov 2020, 1:32 am
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I watched an interview with the chief medical officer in the UK and apparently the 90% success relates to 40,000 participants who are from diverse cultural backgrounds but the CMO was unable to confirm whether the 90% reliability applies to people with severe health problems or old age.
As usual if you are young and healthy then the vaccine works.....otherwise seek medical advice.
As usual if you are young and healthy then the vaccine works.....otherwise seek medical advice.
Well, of course, they aren't going to deliberately infect the most vulnerable, duh!
If the vaccine works for younger people, there is a good chance it is going to work for everyone.
But you aren't going to be silly about including those that might die if it doesn't.
Am I the only rocket surgeon here?
Read the article I posed in the conversation Pepe. Older folk need to get medical advice on how much protection they can realistically get from the new vaccine.
But yes, its likely better than no protection, but older people might want to rethink crowd surfing or diving into mosh pits just because they took the vaccine.
Oh.
I wasn't planning to get it in a hurry, or at all, in the first place. Let the young and dumb go into the fray first and wait a while to see how many fall off the perch, because of it.
Age/maturity/experience has made me cluey.
11 Nov 2020, 2:15 am
11 Nov 2020, 2:35 am
