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15 Mar 2021, 8:29 am

Trump election fraud investigation in Georgia enters new phase with grand jury set to be seated

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A criminal investigation into former President Donald Trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia is set to intensify this week, as a grand jury convenes, offering the local district attorney her first shot at seeking subpoenas for records and interviews.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis made her investigative intentions clear with a round of letters to Georgia state officials in February, asking them to preserve documents relevant to election interference as she investigated potential state crimes including the solicitation of election fraud, conspiracy, and racketeering.

According to the letters, none of the Georgia officials are targets of the investigation.

"What I was doing, as a courtesy to people that I respect very much, is simply putting them on notice that when a grand jury convened, which would be in March, that they could expect to receive subpoenas," Willis told MSNBC in February.

Two grand juries are set to convene in Fulton County on Thursday, opening a path for Willis' next phase in her probe. A person familiar with the investigation said they are likely to rely heavily on subpoenas rather than voluntary requests for records and interviews, in part to establish a clear court record of their pursuit of evidence.

While Willis' investigation launched from the now-infamous call in which Trump pushed Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to "find" him enough votes to win the state, it's expected to stretch well beyond that single call.
"There may be nothing there," said a person familiar with the investigation, "or it may be more extensive that we thought."

Willis has said her investigation will expand past Trump's call with Raffensperger to include any efforts to influence the election in Georgia.

She is also investigating a phone call between Trump loyalist Sen. Lindsey Graham and Raffensperger, the abrupt departure of Byung "BJay" Pak, the US attorney for the Northern District of Georgia, and the false allegations of election fraud Rudy Giuliani made before Georgia legislators.

Bret Williams, a former prosecutor for the Northern District of Georgia US Attorney's office, said the most serious crime that Trump is facing in Georgia is Criminal Solicitation to commit election fraud, a felony. But concluding a crime was committed could be "complicated" and boils to Trump's intent.

"He might say, his lawyers might say, 'No, no, no. He's calling to complain. He's Kvetching. He's saying I got cheated,' " Williams said. Trump's defense could be, "I'm not calling him to ask him to cheat for me, I'm calling him to ask him to undo the cheating," Williams added.

Willis has said she also has questions about Graham's efforts in Georgia.

Graham, a South Carolina Republican, was chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee when he called Raffensperger on November 13 and inquired whether Raffensperger could discard all mail-in ballots from counties that had shown higher rates of unmatched signatures, the Republican secretary of state told the Washington Post at the time. Graham has denied the assertions from Raffensperger, who has stood firm on his account.


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15 Mar 2021, 9:06 am

At least they're doing SOMETHING.....that's the first step.

What will come out of it? Who knows?



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15 Mar 2021, 9:16 am

"Talkin' Ain't Doin'."

We will not know until the verdict is read; even then, unless some action is taken against the former Demander-In-Chief, justice has not been served.



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15 Mar 2021, 9:17 am

It's better to start something....than not to start anything at all.



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15 Mar 2021, 9:23 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
It's better to start something....than not to start anything at all.
Tell that to the people who impeached Mr. Trump twice.



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15 Mar 2021, 9:28 am

It's still better to start something than to do nothing.

This is why people must report crimes to the cops, so the cops can establish a pattern. If 50 people say that a person did something, this carries more credibility than one person saying that a person did something.

If we have 50 investigations, people will start to discern a pattern......



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16 Mar 2021, 6:45 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
It's still better to start something than to do nothing.

This is why people must report crimes to the cops, so the cops can establish a pattern. If 50 people say that a person did something, this carries more credibility than one person saying that a person did something.

If we have 50 investigations, people will start to discern a pattern......


Haven't there already been that many? Seems like it. Fraud, sexual assault, tax fraud, trump university con, 2 impeachments, trump charity scams etc etc..


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18 Mar 2021, 2:32 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

ATLANTA — In a story January 9, 2021, about a phone call between then-President Donald Trump and a lead Georgia elections investigator, The Associated Press, based on information provided by a source, erroneously reported that Trump pressed the investigator to “find the fraud” and said it would make the investigator a national hero. A recording of the call made public two months later revealed that Trump did not say either and instead said that if the investigator looked into Fulton County the investigator would “find things that are gonna be unbelievable.” Trump also told the investigator: “When the right answer comes out, you’ll be praised.”
Copyright 2021 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.

WAPO confessed that it was made up.



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18 Mar 2021, 4:37 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
WAPO confessed that it was made up.


They've corrected one quote, that's not an honest assessment of what occurred.



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18 Mar 2021, 5:06 pm

Why all this faux outrage at a quote that was corrected to use "dishonesty" instead of "fraud" when Trump has form (a very similar call to Brad Raffensperger) and in his pushing the Big Lie has been accusing practically everything with a backbone of fraud, or worse.

But I wonder what on earth "dishonesty" could refer to WRT election results that Trump doesn't believe - "fraud" perhaps?
It's a mystery... :chin:


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