PETA warn farmers to not kill mice during plague

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19 May 2021, 4:36 pm

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Anything PETA says should be automatically disregarded. They think shearing sheep is harmful.


And yet their spokesperson for PETA (who was probably wearing nappies 10 years earlier) is able to get the prime minister of our country to publicly comment about this issue.



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19 May 2021, 5:14 pm

Why aren’t the cane toads eating them?


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19 May 2021, 5:33 pm

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When it says plague, does it mean an overabundance of mice? Or is the concern something like bubonic plague, which can be spread by rodents but kills humans?


It's the former.

Its a "plague", as in "a plague of locusts". Not "plague" as in "THE plague" (the bubonic plague- the disease that killed millions ).

But, when you're talking about rodents... a "plague" of them could potentially also spread "THE plague". :D



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19 May 2021, 7:44 pm

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Why aren’t the cane toads eating them?


Thats actually a good question.

From what I gather from Google:

The cane toads were introduced to australia to protect the sugarcane crops from pests. Specifically insect borers. The trouble is that the giant south american frogs couldnt attack the particular bug that attacked the Australian sugarcane becase the bug attacks the tops of the plants, and the frogs are bad climbers. So the frogs became a nuisance themselves without even being able to do their job. Lol!

But cane toads DO eat mice- and have been introduced to tropical island for that reason.

So yeah. Good question.


The current mouse plague seems to be two plagues centered in two far apart states: New South Wales, and Queensland. With NSW being the worst.

Queensland is in the north - in the tropics/subtropics (like Florida), and NSW is like Ohio. In the temperate zone cornbelt or wheatbelt.

The cane toads only thrive in the tropics and subtropics. Their whole range in Australia pretty much coincides with boundries of Queensland at the top of Australia. But New South Wales is way down south in the temperate zone. So it doesnt have cane toads to help kill the mice. So thats explains it for NSW.

But why the toads arent doing their job in the north I dont know. Maybe they ARE eating mice, and the plague would be even worse there if the toads werent there!



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19 May 2021, 8:21 pm

Why aren't the giant feral cats I hear so much about helping? :nerdy:


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19 May 2021, 10:21 pm

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Why aren't the giant feral cats I hear so much about helping? :nerdy:


The Cats can't keep up with all those mice, Snakes couldn't either.

There was a picture in the paper of a cat with one of the mice on his back the other day.
His owner said he got tired chasing them.



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19 May 2021, 10:31 pm

Aprilviolets wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Why aren't the giant feral cats I hear so much about helping? :nerdy:


The Cats can't keep up with all those mice, Snakes couldn't either.

There was a picture in the paper of a cat with one of the mice on his back the other day.
His owner said he got tired chasing them.


Omg, please post. 8O


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19 May 2021, 10:36 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Aprilviolets wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Why aren't the giant feral cats I hear so much about helping? :nerdy:


The Cats can't keep up with all those mice, Snakes couldn't either.

There was a picture in the paper of a cat with one of the mice on his back the other day.
His owner said he got tired chasing them.


Omg, please post. 8O


Sorry I don't know how to post pictures, I tried to once before but I couldn't do it.



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19 May 2021, 10:49 pm

Found one picture here, https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... posed.html


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19 May 2021, 10:52 pm

Hmm, how much validity in that?
https://www.animals24-7.org/2021/04/10/ ... will-play/

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Cat persecution preceded mouse plagues

Almost entirely overlooked, though, were the effects of intensive cat extermination campaigns undertaken in many of the exact same areas now suffering mouse plagues.

The Game & Feral Animal Control Act 2002 made feral cats legal targets for hunters throughout New South Wales.

When that and similar policy changes in other Australian states failed to arrest the ongoing decline of New South Wales native species, which hardly anyone denies is chiefly the result of human-induced habitat change, the Australian national government in July 2015 introduced a scheme to kill two million cats by 2020.

As that effort faltered, the New South Wales departments of Primary Industries, National Parks, Wildlife, and Local Land Services in August 2019 jointly committed $30 million over five years into developing more effective cat-killing methods.


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19 May 2021, 11:27 pm

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19 May 2021, 11:52 pm

PETA is a terrorist organization.
We don't negotiate with terrorists OR mice.
Catch the mice and relocate them...to the bottom of the ocean.


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20 May 2021, 2:48 am

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But why the toads arent doing their job in the north I dont know. Maybe they ARE eating mice, and the plague would be even worse there if the toads werent there!


While you are correct that their geographical distribution doesn't overlap, even where there is overlap only a full grown toad can swallow a mouse and the larger toads are too slow to catch a swift moving mouse. Have you ever watched speedy Gonzales?



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20 May 2021, 2:50 am

old_comedywriter wrote:
PETA is a terrorist organization.
We don't negotiate with terrorists OR mice.
Catch the mice and relocate them...to the bottom of the ocean.


Not sure if PETA has evert done terrorism? are you perhaps thinking of Animal Liberation? they certainly have,



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20 May 2021, 6:31 am

naturalplastic wrote:

The current mouse plague seems to be two plagues centered in two far apart states: New South Wales, and Queensland. With NSW being the worst.

Queensland is in the north - in the tropics/subtropics (like Florida), and NSW is like Ohio. In the temperate zone cornbelt or wheatbelt.


Queensland and NSW aren't far apart states, they are up against each other with the boundary cutting through Coolangatta and forming a jagged line working inland.

The mouse plague is causing chaos in eastern Australia in rural areas. Crops destroyed, machinery damaged, people attacked. Furthermore these things have extremely short reproductive cycles and multiply into many thousands very quickly. Apart from killing them what does this stupid fool think we should be doing with them? Adopt them? Put them into a zoo someplace?



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20 May 2021, 4:32 pm

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Apart from killing them what does this stupid fool think we should be doing with them? Adopt them? Put them into a zoo someplace?


Ben Fordham asked her if she was willing to adopt them at her comfortable inner city home and she smlied and ignored the question.