auntblabby
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04 Jul 2021, 6:43 pm
04 Jul 2021, 6:44 pm
auntblabby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
What BLM wants to dismantle is the ingrained racism in American society. I think this is the primary reason why so many oppose them.
the right simultaneously denies the existence of racism/classism/ableism, denies that there is anything wrong with racism/classism/ableism, denies that they have anything to do with racism/classism/ableism. it is all a big gaslit mess they have made.
You are engaging in a binary position, once again.
It is/was in the WP rulz not to generalise the way you have done here.
04 Jul 2021, 6:46 pm
ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
It's like something out of 1984 or a cartoon.
Let's give the organization a blatantly, overtly positive name that really has nothing to do with the end goal. People will support the organization based on the name! And it worked.
A concept sounds good. Using the name of the concept for a questionable organization seems like something from fiction, but it's happened.
Let's give the organization a blatantly, overtly positive name that really has nothing to do with the end goal. People will support the organization based on the name! And it worked.
A concept sounds good. Using the name of the concept for a questionable organization seems like something from fiction, but it's happened.
Most people are ill-informed, work from an emotionalistic position, and can be easily manipulated into becoming "Useful Idiots", yes.
04 Jul 2021, 6:50 pm
Sweetleaf wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
i don't believe that for a second.
The article states they want to dismantle Capitalism.
And what is wrong with that? I'm a socialist, so meh.
American capitalism helped a lot of families gain financial (happy 4th of July) independence.
Did your family benefit also?
There is a veteran member, on WP, who has done *extremely* well under the capitalistic system, btw.
04 Jul 2021, 6:57 pm
auntblabby
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04 Jul 2021, 7:08 pm
Pepe wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
i don't believe that for a second.
The article states they want to dismantle Capitalism.
And what is wrong with that? I'm a socialist, so meh.
American capitalism helped a lot of families gain financial (happy 4th of July) independence.
Did your family benefit also?
There is a veteran member, on WP, who has done *extremely* well under the capitalistic system, btw.
to hell with amuuurican-style capitalism. it has not helped this vet one iota. i am beyond ready for "third way."
04 Jul 2021, 7:14 pm
auntblabby wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
i don't believe that for a second.
The article states they want to dismantle Capitalism.
And what is wrong with that? I'm a socialist, so meh.
American capitalism helped a lot of families gain financial (happy 4th of July) independence.
Did your family benefit also?
There is a veteran member, on WP, who has done *extremely* well under the capitalistic system, btw.
to hell with amuuurican-style capitalism. it has not helped this vet one iota. i am beyond ready for "third way."
Uncle Joe will make things right.
funeralxempire
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04 Jul 2021, 7:21 pm
Pepe wrote:
Uncle Joe will make things right.
It sounds like Blabby is tired of the status quo but also understands the threat posted by backwards reactionaries.
funeralxempire
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04 Jul 2021, 7:23 pm
04 Jul 2021, 8:22 pm
Pepe wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
i don't believe that for a second.
The article states they want to dismantle Capitalism.
And what is wrong with that? I'm a socialist, so meh.
American capitalism helped a lot of families gain financial (happy 4th of July) independence.
Did your family benefit also?
There is a veteran member, on WP, who has done *extremely* well under the capitalistic system, btw.
American capitalism perpetuated slavery. Remind me again, what part of our population suffered under that? American capitalism also came up with the idea of redlining. I seem to remember the same group being targeted.
04 Jul 2021, 8:26 pm
auntblabby wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
i don't believe that for a second.
The article states they want to dismantle Capitalism.
And what is wrong with that? I'm a socialist, so meh.
American capitalism helped a lot of families gain financial (happy 4th of July) independence.
Did your family benefit also?
There is a veteran member, on WP, who has done *extremely* well under the capitalistic system, btw.
to hell with amuuurican-style capitalism. it has not helped this vet one iota. i am beyond ready for "third way."
What’s Third Way?
auntblabby
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04 Jul 2021, 8:31 pm
Tim_Tex wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
i don't believe that for a second.
The article states they want to dismantle Capitalism.
And what is wrong with that? I'm a socialist, so meh.
American capitalism helped a lot of families gain financial (happy 4th of July) independence.
Did your family benefit also?
There is a veteran member, on WP, who has done *extremely* well under the capitalistic system, btw.
to hell with amuuurican-style capitalism. it has not helped this vet one iota. i am beyond ready for "third way."
What’s Third Way?
courtesy of the scandinavian nations who first tried it and stuck with it- it is basically capitalism with a human face, IOW capitalism with strong social safety net paid for with higher taxes on the middle and upper classes.
04 Jul 2021, 8:49 pm
Kraichgauer
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04 Jul 2021, 8:59 pm
Nades wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Nades wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Nades wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Nades wrote:
I've always considered BLM to be an anarchist organisation first and foremost followed by a money laundering/fraud scheme. They're just feigning interest in improving race relations to gain public support and donation money. Ironic and hypocritical for an anarchist group really.
I'm firmly against BLM and all they stand for.
I'm firmly against BLM and all they stand for.
Even the notion that black lives matter?
Black Lives Matter isn't actually about black lives though is it? And I don't see how somehow going into an Anarchist state with no ability to implement discrimination laws is somehow going to help stop discrimination. In the world that BLM want to create, shooting people for being black will actually be legal.
And just how is that?
Probably because BLM stated again and again they want the removal of police forces and leading figures within the organisation appear to be fond embezzlement.
While it's doubtlessly a bad idea to do away with law enforcement, one has to remember the bad relationship the African American community has had with the police, who have been especially violent and racist toward them. If I were in their shoes, there's a good chance I'd be calling for the same thing.
There might be a culture clash between where I live and the US. I live in an almost entirely white area which has also suffered extreme exploitation bordering on slavery for well over a century.
I have no respect for BLM period. Perhaps it's different to the "new world" like in the US, but where I'm from where white kids used to get blown up in mines and many not even paid actual currency for working 12 hour days, I just don't really care either way.
I'm probably never likely to respect BLM really.
Wait a minute... you live in Wales... What do you really know about my country?
Kraichgauer
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04 Jul 2021, 9:01 pm
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
What BLM wants to dismantle is the ingrained racism in American society. I think this is the primary reason why so many oppose them.
And to funnel off donations to buy million-dollar properties.
So far, I've only learned about that accusation against one individual involved with BLM. I hardly think most or all of BLM is involved in such a thing.
Kraichgauer
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04 Jul 2021, 9:03 pm
Pepe wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
i don't believe that for a second.
The article states they want to dismantle Capitalism.
And what is wrong with that? I'm a socialist, so meh.
American capitalism helped a lot of families gain financial (happy 4th of July) independence.
Did your family benefit also?
There is a veteran member, on WP, who has done *extremely* well under the capitalistic system, btw.
to hell with amuuurican-style capitalism. it has not helped this vet one iota. i am beyond ready for "third way."
Uncle Joe will make things right.
Actually, I'm hoping he will.
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