06 Nov 2021, 10:21 pm
Kraichgauer
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06 Nov 2021, 10:26 pm
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Is Trump really wrong about Baldwin though? I mean yeah, the conspiracy theory is a stretch, but otherwise that read to me like an accurate description of the man.
This is coming from Trump, a man with morbid Narcissistic Personality Disorder who can't understand or appreciate humor directed at him, and so responds with cruelty.
Trump explicitly stated he enjoyed/appreciated the other comedian parodying him.
Your statement has been invalidated.
Sorry.
Trump actually has a very good sense of humour.
The left often misses and perverts it intentionally or unintentionally, however.
But as I mentioned, he should keep his mouth shut, at times.
Fat chance of that.
Everything Trump's said or done has invalidated these claims. I remember when Baldwin first started playing Trump. He had a shitfit over it, initially.
Trump's so called humor involves demeaning those he perceives as weaker or below himself. Case in point, when he publicly imitated a disabled reported critical of him.
06 Nov 2021, 10:41 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
This is coming from Trump, a man with morbid Narcissistic Personality Disorder who can't understand or appreciate humor directed at him, and so responds with cruelty.
Doesn't make him wrong though.
It makes his conclusion about Baldwin, who he holds a grudge against, questionable.
Now, let's consider your grudge against Mr Trump, and your conclusions about him...
Me and the majority of Americans - - because we had to suffer under him!
So, you're saying that the conclusions about Mr Trump by yourself (and the majority of Americans, according to you), who hold a grudge against him, are questionable.
Thanks for clarifying.
Trump is a vulgar, narcissistic confidence man who, in his worship of autocratic strongmen who he wanted be one of, tried to dissolve our ties to our traditional allies. When he lost the last election, he tried to stage a coup by attempting to pressure Mike Pence and congress to decertify the election results under threat by a right wing mob of lunatics, and has since been selling the lie that he was cheated out of the Presidency. Trust me, we have more than enough reason to hold a grudge against that orange fraud.
And yes, as the majority of Americans had voted against Trump, most of us do hold a grudge against him.
I have become an American citizen this last week, so I am allowed to comment here. <joke>
Trump can be vulgar, but I am not that sensitive.
The ABC, here in Australia, have comedy skits where the indigenous community calls Caucasian Australians "white *unts".
Andrew Bolt finds that vulgar, also.
I find it amusing.
I think you and Andrew should lighten up.
Edgy humour is the mark of a free mind.
Most people take themselves and life too seriously.
Most people should khill out.
From memory, Trump didn't attempt to dissolve NATO.
He wanted NATO to pull its weight and contribute more equitably to the cost of maintaining world peace.
I hate the man for that!
<joke> There was no coup.
There was no attempted coup.
All Pence could have done was postpone the inevitable.
Pence has integrity and declined the nonsense.
He seemed to be shocked by the suggestion.
When the right has a violent protest, they are lunatics.
When the left has a violent protest it is justified moral outrage.
Got it.
The American voting system needs to be amended.
Vote early, vote often, is not a good system.
Identity cards are needed.
The American Electoral Colledge System needs looking into.
Something is krook in Tobruk when 10 million more votes from the left puts the election in doubt, in the minds of the Republicans.
06 Nov 2021, 10:49 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Is Trump really wrong about Baldwin though? I mean yeah, the conspiracy theory is a stretch, but otherwise that read to me like an accurate description of the man.
This is coming from Trump, a man with morbid Narcissistic Personality Disorder who can't understand or appreciate humor directed at him, and so responds with cruelty.
Trump explicitly stated he enjoyed/appreciated the other comedian parodying him.
Your statement has been invalidated.
Sorry.
Trump actually has a very good sense of humour.
The left often misses and perverts it intentionally or unintentionally, however.
But as I mentioned, he should keep his mouth shut, at times.
Fat chance of that.
Everything Trump's said or done has invalidated these claims. I remember when Baldwin first started playing Trump. He had a shitfit over it, initially.
Trump's so called humor involves demeaning those he perceives as weaker or below himself. Case in point, when he publicly imitated a disabled reported critical of him.
Call me perverse, but when he calls Warren "Pocahontas", or when he calls Biden "Sleepy Joe", I find it humorous.
But even for me, he does go too far, at times.
His behaviour is not "Presidential", I agree.
Politics is a brutal game.
I think people need to toughen up or not turn on the channel in the first place.
But then, most people enjoy expressing their moral outrage.
It is addictive, after all, and is chemical based.
06 Nov 2021, 10:55 pm
Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
It makes his conclusion about Baldwin, who he holds a grudge against, questionable.
And if that conclusions should happen to line up with conventional wisdom about Alec Baldwin? You're getting perilously close to saying that if Trump said the sky was blue you'd leap up to object...
This is the problem with hyperpartisanship.
People lose credibility when they embrace emotionalism in defiance against reason and the facts.
06 Nov 2021, 10:59 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
It makes his conclusion about Baldwin, who he holds a grudge against, questionable.
And if that conclusions should happen to line up with conventional wisdom about Alec Baldwin? You're getting perilously close to saying that if Trump said the sky was blue you'd leap up to object...
I doubt anyone ever said Baldwin was the sanest guy on the planet. Just the same, Trump - even crazier - has a grudge against him for his S&L portrayals, and that is why I think what Trump says should be taken with a grain of salt. That, and the fact that Trump has a history of being a stranger to the truth.
Well, I'll be damned! I guess I am saying if Trump said the sky was blue, I'd look out the window to confirm it!
Agreed, but aren't most politicians "professional liars"?
I don't think you understand the game of politics all that well.
Don't blindly believe anything/k a politician says.
Engage your critical thinking skills and keep an open mind.
"Hyperpartisanship" only makes one a "useful idiot".
Kraichgauer
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06 Nov 2021, 11:03 pm
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
This is coming from Trump, a man with morbid Narcissistic Personality Disorder who can't understand or appreciate humor directed at him, and so responds with cruelty.
Doesn't make him wrong though.
It makes his conclusion about Baldwin, who he holds a grudge against, questionable.
Now, let's consider your grudge against Mr Trump, and your conclusions about him...
Me and the majority of Americans - - because we had to suffer under him!
So, you're saying that the conclusions about Mr Trump by yourself (and the majority of Americans, according to you), who hold a grudge against him, are questionable.
Thanks for clarifying.
Trump is a vulgar, narcissistic confidence man who, in his worship of autocratic strongmen who he wanted be one of, tried to dissolve our ties to our traditional allies. When he lost the last election, he tried to stage a coup by attempting to pressure Mike Pence and congress to decertify the election results under threat by a right wing mob of lunatics, and has since been selling the lie that he was cheated out of the Presidency. Trust me, we have more than enough reason to hold a grudge against that orange fraud.
And yes, as the majority of Americans had voted against Trump, most of us do hold a grudge against him.
I have become an American citizen this last week, so I am allowed to comment here. <joke>
Trump can be vulgar, but I am not that sensitive.
The ABC, here in Australia, have comedy skits where the indigenous community calls Caucasian Australians "white *unts".
Andrew Bolt finds that vulgar, also.
I find it amusing.
I think you and Andrew should lighten up.
Edgy humour is the mark of a free mind.
Most people take themselves and life too seriously.
Most people should khill out.
From memory, Trump didn't attempt to dissolve NATO.
He wanted NATO to pull its weight and contribute more equitably to the cost of maintaining world peace.
I hate the man for that!
<joke> There was no coup.
There was no attempted coup.
All Pence could have done was postpone the inevitable.
Pence has integrity and declined the nonsense.
He seemed to be shocked by the suggestion.
When the right has a violent protest, they are lunatics.
When the left has a violent protest it is justified moral outrage.
Got it.
The American voting system needs to be amended.
Vote early, vote often, is not a good system.
Identity cards are needed.
The American Electoral Colledge System needs looking into.
Something is krook in Tobruk when 10 million more votes from the left puts the election in doubt, in the minds of the Republicans.
Trump liked the idea of pulling out of NATO, but had met with too much resistance. Also, the idea of other NATO countries not pulling their own weight is way overblown by the right.
There certainly was a coup. Why do you think the whole thing took place in the first place? And while Pence couldn't have realistically stopped the election results, Trump and company certainly believed they could have at least had the results sent back to the states, where Trump tried to pressure local officials to change the election results.
A violent lunatic is a violent lunatic. I recall how the right tried to dismiss the November 6 violence off as Antifa guerilla theater.
Krook in Tobruk? What and what? The election was legitimate and legal. The Republicans are just sore losers. The fact that they don't want to accept the results of the election, and are willing to come up with the most outlandish explanations for why it wasn't, tells me that they potentially pose a genuine threat to American democracy.
Kraichgauer
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06 Nov 2021, 11:08 pm
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
It makes his conclusion about Baldwin, who he holds a grudge against, questionable.
And if that conclusions should happen to line up with conventional wisdom about Alec Baldwin? You're getting perilously close to saying that if Trump said the sky was blue you'd leap up to object...
I doubt anyone ever said Baldwin was the sanest guy on the planet. Just the same, Trump - even crazier - has a grudge against him for his S&L portrayals, and that is why I think what Trump says should be taken with a grain of salt. That, and the fact that Trump has a history of being a stranger to the truth.
Well, I'll be damned! I guess I am saying if Trump said the sky was blue, I'd look out the window to confirm it!
Agreed, but aren't most politicians "professional liars"?
I don't think you understand the game of politics all that well.
Don't blindly believe anything/k a politician says.
Engage your critical thinking skills and keep an open mind.
"Hyperpartisanship" only makes one a "useful idiot".
There are liars, then there are liars. Trump has been a professional liar long before he ever entered politics. The city of New York said they would never work with him again, as he was so patently dishonest. He makes virtually every other politician look honest. Take his campaign to overturn the last Presidential election, for example.
07 Nov 2021, 12:48 am
Pepe wrote:
The ABC, here in Australia, have comedy skits where the indigenous community calls Caucasian Australians "white *unts".
Andrew Bolt finds that vulgar, also.
I find it amusing.
Andrew Bolt finds that vulgar, also.
I find it amusing.
Does Andrew Bolt know that ABC locally produced indigenous dramas get like 20-30 viewers and of that Sky News staff make up 30%
The only people who watch indigenous programs on SBS or the ABC are largely indigenous people, Even though I am sympathetic to indigenous people's plight, I find their locally produced comedy/drama to be not that interesting or relatable but I respect their need to have their own programs.
07 Nov 2021, 2:37 am
07 Nov 2021, 2:43 am
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07 Nov 2021, 2:54 am
07 Nov 2021, 3:03 am
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07 Nov 2021, 3:19 am
07 Nov 2021, 3:39 am
07 Nov 2021, 3:46 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
This is coming from Trump, a man with morbid Narcissistic Personality Disorder who can't understand or appreciate humor directed at him, and so responds with cruelty.
Doesn't make him wrong though.
It makes his conclusion about Baldwin, who he holds a grudge against, questionable.
Now, let's consider your grudge against Mr Trump, and your conclusions about him...
Me and the majority of Americans - - because we had to suffer under him!
So, you're saying that the conclusions about Mr Trump by yourself (and the majority of Americans, according to you), who hold a grudge against him, are questionable.
Thanks for clarifying.
Trump is a vulgar, narcissistic confidence man who, in his worship of autocratic strongmen who he wanted be one of, tried to dissolve our ties to our traditional allies. When he lost the last election, he tried to stage a coup by attempting to pressure Mike Pence and congress to decertify the election results under threat by a right wing mob of lunatics, and has since been selling the lie that he was cheated out of the Presidency. Trust me, we have more than enough reason to hold a grudge against that orange fraud.
And yes, as the majority of Americans had voted against Trump, most of us do hold a grudge against him.
I have become an American citizen this last week, so I am allowed to comment here. <joke>
Trump can be vulgar, but I am not that sensitive.
The ABC, here in Australia, have comedy skits where the indigenous community calls Caucasian Australians "white *unts".
Andrew Bolt finds that vulgar, also.
I find it amusing.
I think you and Andrew should lighten up.
Edgy humour is the mark of a free mind.
Most people take themselves and life too seriously.
Most people should khill out.
From memory, Trump didn't attempt to dissolve NATO.
He wanted NATO to pull its weight and contribute more equitably to the cost of maintaining world peace.
I hate the man for that!
<joke> There was no coup.
There was no attempted coup.
All Pence could have done was postpone the inevitable.
Pence has integrity and declined the nonsense.
He seemed to be shocked by the suggestion.
When the right has a violent protest, they are lunatics.
When the left has a violent protest it is justified moral outrage.
Got it.
The American voting system needs to be amended.
Vote early, vote often, is not a good system.
Identity cards are needed.
The American Electoral Colledge System needs looking into.
Something is krook in Tobruk when 10 million more votes from the left puts the election in doubt, in the minds of the Republicans.
Trump liked the idea of pulling out of NATO, but had met with too much resistance.
Also, the idea of other NATO countries not pulling their own weight is way overblown by the right.
Could you supply a link?
Serious question.
Kraichgauer wrote:
There certainly was a coup. Why do you think the whole thing took place in the first place? And while Pence couldn't have realistically stopped the election results, Trump and company certainly believed they could have at least had the results sent back to the states, where Trump tried to pressure local officials to change the election results.
A violent lunatic is a violent lunatic. I recall how the right tried to dismiss the November 6 violence off as Antifa guerilla theater.
Krook in Tobruk? What and what? The election was legitimate and legal. The Republicans are just sore losers. The fact that they don't want to accept the results of the election, and are willing to come up with the most outlandish explanations for why it wasn't, tells me that they potentially pose a genuine threat to American democracy.
A violent lunatic is a violent lunatic. I recall how the right tried to dismiss the November 6 violence off as Antifa guerilla theater.
Krook in Tobruk? What and what? The election was legitimate and legal. The Republicans are just sore losers. The fact that they don't want to accept the results of the election, and are willing to come up with the most outlandish explanations for why it wasn't, tells me that they potentially pose a genuine threat to American democracy.
The "Krook in Tobruk" comment was about the American voting system being broken
A 10 million vote advantage is a sure indication that the majority wanted Biden, not Trump.
As I see it, your Electoral Colledge Voting System is krook (crook) and needs to be amended, imo.
Regarding "sore losers":
How many times do I have to remind you about the 4-year dummy-spit by the Democrats when Hillary lost.
There is no point in us discussing these things any longer.
We have been here a number of times.
It is now time to agree to disagree.
I will try if you try.
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